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Post by The Resister on Feb 20, 2023 19:32:45 GMT
I have literally gone into the backyard of liberals and especially radical Blacks specifically to get a real discussion regarding what it is to be " woke" and why I oppose it. To begin with we must understand that most tighty righties and kosher conservatives claim to oppose things like being woke and Critical Race Theory, but they don't know what the Hell they're talking about the moment the left confronts them. You won't be seeing that on this thread. If they take the challenge, they had better come here with both barrels blazing. Be prepared. The fact is, like many terms " woke" is ever changing. Here are some excerpts from Wikipedia that illustrate why I'm opposed to wokeism: Woke (/ˈwoʊk/ WOHK) is an adjective derived from African-American Vernacular English (AAVE) meaning "alert to racial prejudice and discrimination".[1][2] Beginning in the 2010s, it came to encompass a broader awareness of social inequalities such as sexism, and has also been used as shorthand for American Left ideas involving identity politics and social justice, such as the notion of white privilege and slavery reparations for African Americans.
According to The Economist, as the term woke and the #Staywoke hashtag began to spread online, the term "began to signify a progressive outlook on a host of issues as well as on race"
...Following the shooting of Michael Brown in 2014, The phrase stay woke was used by activists of the Black Lives Matter (BLM) movement to urge awareness of police abuses.[4][25][24] The BET documentary Stay Woke, which covered the movement, aired in May 2016.[26] Within the decade of the 2010s, the word woke (the colloquial, passively voiced past participle of wake) obtained the meaning 'politically and socially aware'[27] among BLM activists... The term has gained popularity amid an increasing leftward turn on various issues among the American Left; this has partly been a reaction to the right-wing politics of U.S. President Donald Trump, who was elected in 2016, but also to a growing awareness regarding the extent of historical discrimination faced by African Americans.[33] According to Perry Bacon Jr., ideas that have come to be associated with "wokeness" include a rejection of American exceptionalism; a belief that the United States has never been a true democracy; that people of color suffer from systemic and institutional racism; that white Americans experience white privilege; that African Americans deserve reparations for slavery and post-enslavement discrimination; that disparities among racial groups, for instance in certain professions or industries, are automatic evidence of discrimination; that U.S. law enforcement agencies are designed to discriminate against people of color and so should be defunded, disbanded, or heavily reformed; that women suffer from systemic sexism; that individuals should be able to identify with any gender or none; that U.S. capitalism is deeply flawed; and that Trump's election to the presidency was not an aberration but a reflection of the prejudices about people of color held by large parts of the U.S. population.[33] Although increasingly accepted across much of the American Left, many of these ideas were nevertheless unpopular among the U.S. population as a whole and among other, especially more centrist, parts of the Democratic Party..." Source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woke (emphasis mine, of course) So, we're looking at the race issue, identity politics, social justice, so - called "white privilege," slavery, reparations, defunding police, sexism, the idiotic notion that you can choose which gender which to identify with, an alleged inference that America is supposed to be a democracy (sic), that our history (American exceptionalism) is somehow flawed, and questions regarding prejudice. I DISAGREE with the far left and, unless they suddenly grow a pair and post something, I'm going to begin explaining the counter to the BLM position and the liberals who are in favor of the woke position. ...
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Post by The Resister on Feb 20, 2023 21:55:23 GMT
Let's be honest for a change about race. America was founded for the advancement, preservation, and protection of the white race. While our founding document, the birth certificate of the United States, known as the Declaration of Independence presupposed unalienable Rights (Rights bestowed upon us by a Creator), only Whites could become citizens, run for public office and vote. Citizenship, voting and running for public office are privileges not rights. This has been construed as a bad thing; however, the left only looks at things like slavery through their lens AND that lens is obstructed by dishonesty, hatred, intolerance, misinformation and an attempt to rewrite our history.
I say that because I was always taught that two wrongs don't make a right. If, as the Blacks claim, the current crop of White Republicans are trying to erase the history of Black people, then they would be equally wrong to do it to Whites. This isn't the first time you've heard me rail against the liberal (and Black) move to erase our nation's history by removing statues, plaques, portraits, memorials, flags, etc. from public view. They try to demonize our ancestors, but they replace the symbols of our heritage with public displays that glorify law breaking criminals as in George Floyd. They tell us that race is a social construct while they have a special month set aside to celebrate "Black History." Can it get any more hypocritical!
And, while Blacks babble on about slavery, they do not acknowledge that the United States did not invent the institution of slavery. The federal government never legalized slavery and the Constitution called for an end to the importation of slaves into the United States with these words: "The Migration or Importation of such Persons as any of the States now existing shall think proper to admit, shall not be prohibited by the Congress prior to the Year one thousand eight hundred and eight, but a Tax or duty may be imposed on such Importation, not exceeding ten dollars for each Person." (Article I Section 9 of the Constitution of the United States) In 1807 Congress formally ended the practice of importing slaves into the United States.
NOTHING is said about the fact that when the United States came into being, most of the world was practicing slavery AND the states within the United States were the first to begin outlawing slavery in the modern era of history. And there is much more:
Wokeism doesn't address the FACT that while Blacks were brought into the United States as slaves, many Whites were brought in as indentured servants. Black slaves had it much better that indentured servants. The majority of indentured servants were treated so bad that they didn't live long enough to attain their freedom. In the interim, Black slaves ate better, had better medical care, better housing, better clothing and superior living conditions as compared to their blue collar White skin contemporaries. That also manifested itself in a longer life span for Black people. The current narrative of the woke crowd fails to mention that most of the rest of the world engaged in the slave trade thereby excusing Black countries that engaged in slavery. The current narrative fails to condemn those who brought slaves into the United States AND, more importantly, hold their Black brethren accountable for selling their fellow Black man into slavery to begin with. Blacks only see the issue through their lens with no regard for the truth. If we did look at the truth, many Blacks would be on the wrong end of the equation to provide reparations since many Blacks can trace their roots back to the people who sold their kinsmen into bondage to begin with.
My view on that aspect of the issue is that world history shows what this is all about. Blacks did not like White rule in Rhodesia so they aligned themselves with communists. There they overtook Rhodesia, renamed it Zimbabwe and today it is 97.3 percent Black. Whites are barely subhumans in that place which has regressed back to the level of a third world country. In America, just as Rhodesia, the real agenda is genocide against the White race. Liberal Blacks will not be happy until the Whites have been eradicated. We're going to talk about that in this thread.
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Post by The Resister on Feb 21, 2023 22:13:06 GMT
Well, those who falsely claimed that nobody opposing them could define the term "woke" must be sorely disappointed as they hide in their dens of treachery, preaching a false gospel. Neither am I amused by the Whites in the United States that try to deny the facts and / or condemn me for bringing them out in the open.
Woke started out being about being against racial prejudice and discrimination. It morphed into other areas (and those need to be discussed as well.) But, I am content to stick with the racial prejudice and discrimination angle. Prejudice is defined in most dictionaries as to have developed an opinion without thought, knowledge or reason. Once you add in any one or any combination of those three, it is NOT prejudice when you develop an opinion (as if you owe someone an explanation as to why you like or dislike anything.) Freedom of conscience; Freedom of choice; the Right to choose as you deem fit is your inheritance as an American. The converse of such a value is to have thought police to prosecute you for thought crimes. That sounds like a nightmare straight out of Orwell's 1984.
While I do not need a reason to have any particular feeling, just for the mental exercise of it, I will tell you the top SIX reasons I'm not in love with the idea of multiculturalism (in no particular order):
1 - Black genes are more predominant over White genes at a ratio of 4 to 1. Inter-racial marriage is used to commit a subtle form of genocide against the White people
2 - The Bible teaches that inter-racial marriage is in opposition to God's laws. If you disagree, I have the Freedom of Religion provided by the First Amendment
3 - After Black people subdue a country, the next step they take is to erase the White peoples history and force them out
4 - Blacks in America were brainwashed to believe that all Whites owe them something and, consequently, Blacks feel entitled to be in charge of America
5 - The hatred that Blacks have for Whites is so deep that they find themselves supporting the communists, progressives, sexual deviants, socialists, agnostics, atheists, LGBTQP types, etc. in an effort to oust the White race from America via very subtle forms of genocide
6 - The majority of Black people in America side with the liberals who despise the concepts of unalienable Rights and Liberties enjoyed by the individual
I don't owe people explanations, but that is my personal problem with the woke crowd. That is just six of many reasons I choose to separate myself from the mainstream. When people come to America; when they are afforded the privileges of citizenship, they are expected to assimilate. Liberals control the Black voting bloc and there isn't one thing connected to White culture that the left wing liberal likes about White people nor the constitutional Republic they founded. Under our original Constitution the people made this the greatest nation ever recorded. When we began changing the blueprint and when we began rejecting our Christian heritage, the country began to fall exponentially. In coming to my conclusions, I've used thought, knowledge, and reason. Whether they like it or not and whether they agree or not, my views are NOT based on prejudice. And, that leaves me with discrimination.
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Post by professorx on Feb 23, 2023 18:48:49 GMT
This discussion needs to continue. It's difficult to have a discussion and people aren't participating. It is obvious that the trolls on other sites lack the courage to come out of their comfort zones and defend their black supremacy against the material that was brought out here. This is another viewpoint that will hopefully add to the conversation.
Those who talk about diversity and inclusion all the time are the first to try and deny us equal rights. Also they get to call people names and never get held accountable. They preach about hate and then demand that we change by erasing our history. Just this week in one Georgia county the blacks tried to get street signs changed to erase the names of people associated with the Confederacy. Thus far they have lost at the county level. Nobody is interested. The point is that instead of worrying about drugs, gangs, crime, rape, robbery, immigration, taxation, homelessness, child truancy, vandalism, and burglary these people fret over changing the names of streets. It appears that their priorities are just simply wrong.
Whites in America have not bellowed and cried over public displays that glorify criminals and even communists because black America wants to be represented. Who are we to judge who they choose as their historical figures? If we aren't judging them, who are they to judge us? The black liberals in America want to question American exceptionalism. Is that their way of saying they believe there is nothing exceptional about the black race? Maybe they are right. That is even more accurate when they are claiming that they built America and whites had nothing to do with it. Maybe they are just being double minded. What needs to be said to get an open conversation going about it?
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Post by The Resister on Feb 24, 2023 4:11:45 GMT
I genuinely expected that one of those on other sites claiming that nobody had the courage to respond to the "woke" agenda would actually challenge me. My comments that would lead one here were deleted and they edited my comments so they could cherry pick and pretend that I wasn't responding. They are nothing but cowards and employing negrophilists (Reverse Oreos) to troll me. So, let's say a few things:
During Black History Month the Black liberals have been bragging about their achievements and so - called achievements. In order to move forward, we have to finish addressing the issue of discrimination.
The inability to discriminate would take a feeble mind. ALL of us discriminate. Some guys like blondes other brunettes; some go for full figured and others want skinny girls that are close to being anorexic; some want a girl tall enough to hunt geese with a rake while others want a midget. Some people like baseball while others like football or pro wrestling. Life is about choices. And, if somebody don't like you on account of your color, religion or anything else, they should be able to. In a free society we have a Freedom of Association and we have the Freedom of Disassociation. Nobody owes someone else a reason for not hiring them, promoting them, renting to them, selling to them, buying from them, dating them or interacting with them in any capacity. We should have the Right to discriminate against anyone at any time provided that we don't infringe on their Rights. If a property owner does not want to rent or sell to you, that is HIS / HER Right. If they don't do business with you (as an individual) you have NO Rights to claim.
When anti-discrimination laws have to be enforced at the barrel of a gun with an imposition on a citizen's unalienable Rights, it is immoral, indefensible, unjustified and wholly unconstitutional (presuming you are interpreting the Constitution the way the framers intended.) I own my home. I'm not beholden to a bank or other financial institution for it. If I choose to rent it (or part of it), sublease it or sell it, I will do so with someone where we mutually agree. Personally I would NEVER be goaded into renting or selling to anyone I didn't want to. I'd burn the place to the ground before I'd be forced. Under our Constitution (again presuming we still live in a constitutional Republic) I have the RIGHT to own personal property. When other people can force their way onto it or force me to engage in a transaction I don't want to be forced into, they are violating my unalienable Rights and I'm under NO constitutional obligation to comply.
Switching gears ever so slightly, the Black community is beside themselves this month bragging about the influence of Hip Hop. What if I don't like Hip Hop? Aren't we supposed to believe in diversity? I'm relegated to watching older tv movies and series. A disclaimer is inserted before the program begins that says the film may offend a more modern audience. Funny, when Will Smith was denigrating poor Whites in his Prince of Bel Air series, NOBODY warned me of the anti-White hatred that POS was spewing. Jaimie Foxx got to brag and say, "“I kill all the white people in the movie, how great is that?” (referring to an SNL interview about the movie Django Unchained.) Hypocrisy over discrimination be damned! Black liberals have their culture; I have mine. If you don't want to assimilate into my culture, then I'm content to separate myself and associate with those more like me - just as Blacks do the moment they get into power.
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Post by The Resister on Feb 28, 2023 4:37:10 GMT
Skipping over the identity politics, "social justice" (sic), the notion of white privilege (LOL), and reparations I wanted to address the rest of the definition and come back to these other minor topics. Going back to the first posting, let me quote it again:
"According to Perry Bacon Jr., ideas that have come to be associated with "wokeness" include a rejection of American exceptionalism; a belief that the United States has never been a true democracy; that people of color suffer from systemic and institutional racism; that white Americans experience white privilege; that African Americans deserve reparations for slavery and post-enslavement discrimination; that disparities among racial groups, for instance in certain professions or industries, are automatic evidence of discrimination; that U.S. law enforcement agencies are designed to discriminate against people of color and so should be defunded, disbanded, or heavily reformed"...
So, part of wokeness is attacking the fundamental notion of American exceptionalism. These people are correct in their belief that America has never been a true democracy. They cannot find a country on the globe that has generated the wealth of the United States. What country can boast of literally lists of people that had world changing achievements attributed to them. There were men like Benjamin Franklin who discovered eletricity and the Wright brothers who conquered the skies or Henry Ford who mass produced automobiles. It all culminated with the invention of the transistor by William Shockley to the ushering in of the computer era. The United States accomplished more in 300 years (from the Mayflower Compact) than the Roman Empire was able to accomplish in 1,000 years (1,500 depending upon which historian says the Roman Empire lasted.)
America is not a democracy; it was never intended to be one; the Constitution guarantees us a Republican Form of Government (Article IV Section 4.) The really STUPID people that argue and claim America is a Democratic Republic are oblivious to American history. The first political party in the United States was the Democratic Republicans, first organized in 1791 and dissolving in 1834. That idea didn't even last 35 years. Our legitimate form of government is REPUBLICAN, so the Black liberals have us on that one. The primary difference between a Republican Form of Government and Democrats is that in a Republic, unalienable Rights are not subject to a majority vote. Under our constitutional Republic, your basic Rights of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness were codified in the Bill of Rights. The Bill of Rights was a limitation upon government of which no majority could deprive us of unless they could amend the Constitution.
Our Constitution was changed by illegally ratified amendments that were fraudulently passed like the 14th Amendment (passed upon the pretext of making Black people citizens, it rescinded the Bill of Rights.) The Constitution was changed by liberal courts that ignored the intent and precedents of the framers and original rulings. That resulted in courts legislating from the bench. Courts have NO constitutional authority to usurp that function of government. The Constitution was changed by regulatory agencies doing the job of Congress and it was altered by presidents with Executive Orders. The Constitution has even been changed by the courts redefining the meaning of words to come to unjust conclusions about what the law means in order to promote the agenda of the courts.
Blacks have had the advantage of racial quotas, affirmative action, reverse discrimination, pro-Black hiring schemes and the laws denying to Americans their Rights to pander to Black supremacists. The government has attacked private property Rights, Freedom of Disassociation, the Right to run private businesses consistent with the owners objectives and locked the White people out with censorship and so called "hate laws." the rally cry for all Black supremacists is that "racism is systemic." I don't know where in the Hell we'd be if they couldn't use that word systemic. The word systemic means that the practice of racism affects the whole. ONG! Really? In America you cannot criticize the Black people without public ridicule. They can do ANYTHING and others are not able to criticize them without paying with their jobs, businesses, public standing and even their homes. Yeah, racism is systemic. Black racism that is. Adding insult to injury, the moment a Black person feels offended, they totally destroy the White and there is no forgiveness and the White can NEVER recuperate from the preceived slight. It's really hypocritical for Black people to harp on racism when they delight in the utter annihilation of Whites.
The worst part is that liberals get to engage in revisionist history and change the narrative our nation with lies, half truths, innuendo and deliberate ommissions of the truth. They really believe that they were the only ones to suffer in the founding and building of this nation. I have a great big surprise for them, but can only vent so much with each new posting.
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Post by The Resister on Mar 1, 2023 19:58:36 GMT
I'm going to level with the readers here. the lack of debate has really pissed me off. Black supremacists post on their sites and in the comment sections of MSM claptrap, falsely making claims that Whites cannot and will not address their allegations. Therefore, said allegations are true since Whites do not challenge the veracity of their narrative. The dishonesty makes me want to vomit. America, like EVERY nation and civilization that ever existed, has committed the left wing sin of discrimination. God himself has practiced discrimination: “ For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.” Deuteronomy 7: 6 To that end, Blacks even try to claim to be those people (though such a claim has NO basis in fact): en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Hebrew_IsraelitesBlacks want reparations for slavery, yet they know, for a fact, the United States did not start slavery. However, the states within the United States were the first to outlaw slavery. Blacks do not hold the multinational corporations accountable for their part in the slave trade; they do not hold their racial kinsmen who sold their ancestors into slavery accountable. Noooo... they want the check to come from among the White citizenry in the United States. The Blacks judiciously avoid any discussion of their part in the world slave trade before, during and after the United States became a country. They want money from me? I've never owned slaves. My father and mother never owned a slave (outside of their own children.) My grandparents didn't own slaves. My great grand-parents didn't own slaves. I have only one relative associated with slavery and I have never profited off that side of my family. That would be Arthur Middleton of which the Navy attack transport, USS Arthur Middleton, is named. And you can't blame him for any perceived legal liability for slavery and the U.S. government since he died before the Constitution was ratified. But, back on point. According to the article in the Economist (referenced in the OP): ".. .that women suffer from systemic sexism; that individuals should be able to identify with any gender or none; that U.S. capitalism is deeply flawed." So, all these guys running around thinking God made a mistake and gave them a penis and women trying to be men is being encouraged and condoned by those who want to punish the Whites out of existence for this perceived racial slight. One has NOTHING to do with the other. It only demonstrates that the REAL motivation behind the White hatred is to commit a subtle form of genocide against the Posterity of the framers of the Constitution (which is exemplified by their war against capitalism.) I'm just warming my engine. Wait until we being sharing links to show what is really causing all this excitement...
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Post by professorx on Mar 3, 2023 21:12:38 GMT
Apparently you ran out of steam or just got tired of talking to yourself. They can run but we can still post our objections to the black takeover of this country. This woke stuff has gets its talking points from the 1619 Project. The mainstream has issues with the way that the 1619 Project tries to rewrite history and give it a false narrative. www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/03/06/1619-project-new-york-times-mistake-122248Black lives Matter and the 1619 Project are both Marxist PACs. They are being exposed for what they do. thefederalist.com/2020/09/22/blm-and-1619-project-scrub-radical-beliefs-from-their-websites/I have a problem with them branching out and promoting the idea that you can self identify and be any sex or non-sex you want to. Aligning themselves with sexual deviants the woke crowd has exposed to us what they are and what they are about. They have no tolerance for our culture or the white race. They detest the principles on which America came into being. They have been programmed to blame it on slavery and they cannot hold themselves accountable for anything because their every failure is the fault of white people and racism. They are trying to bring America down and they have made it about race. We just cannot ignore it any longer.
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Post by The Resister on Mar 7, 2023 20:56:39 GMT
I have gone on other sites asking people on ALL sides of this discussion to join us. All of them complain because they are insecure of their own positions. Whites are afraid to speak out. They don't want to carry the label of racist. Blacks know that they have the power of the MSM and any legitimate debate would automatically handicap them. This site has its limitations as well, but even given that, I can still make a case against the Black takeover of the United Socialist States of Amerika. There is no point denying what it is.
Every time I turn on the television I am faced with Hollyweird stars glorifying inter-racial and homosexual relationships. If you happen to see a show about straight, White, heterosexuals they will be denounced as racists. If, on the other hand, you happen upon a show with an all Black cast that demeans Whites, it's all good. And then it isn't. I recall when all of this was just ramping up. They had a show on tv called The Jeffersons. I've long forgotten the names, but a Black woman was married to a White man. He was a bumbling idiot. I understand Hollyweird's obsession with making Whites look like Elmer Fudd (an old cartoon where the buffoon was originally Black, but they made him White because the character offended Blacks.) Anyway, Whites come off looking like morons and idiots. So, why did a Black woman marry a White guy that was an absolute joke? Doesn't that confirm the White supremacy argument that Blacks are less intelligent than Whites? Why marry the dumbest dolt in the country?
It would be funny if it weren't so sad. The left uses Pavlovian mind conditioning techniques to brainwash the Whites and the Whites never catch on. Just crank up the old mantra of racist that, White supremacist that, bigot here, fascist there and keep babbling about "discrimination." The reality is that Blacks have NO monopoly on human suffering. Even if they did, erasing White history and replacing it with a false narrative is wrong at every level. It is immoral, dishonest, reprehensible, indefensible, outrageous, etc., etc., etc.
The left wing liberals, Whites full of self hate and loathing, along with the Black supremacists were called out. And when they called me out, I accepted the challenge. They tapped out.
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