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That Pesky 14th Amendment Apr 25, 2023 19:35:23 GMT

Post by The Resister on Apr 25, 2023 19:35:23 GMT

What do you think the most serious problem in America is? Drugs? Guns? Taxes? Immigration? Wokeism? Racism? Environmental issues? Hang on for just a moment while I explain this. Almost all of those issues (save of maybe environmental issues) are related to the immigration debacle and the immigration debacle crosses paths with the illegally ratified Fourteenth Amendment. Conspiracy theory? It's not a theory once it's been proven to be true. Where, exactly, do we being by explaining this? By explaining the fact that there is a serious question about the Fourteenth Amendment's legitimacy? No, but we can do that later. I think we should look at the pretext that was used to pass the Fourteenth Amendment. Then you will understand what is really going on.

The Fourteenth Amendment was illegally ratified under the pretext of giving Blacks a "right" to become citizens. Note the bolded words and the italicized one. That is being done for the purpose of bringing attention to them. Now a pretext is the excuse or the given reason that something is done regardless of the real issue of why it is being done. Our next concern with this presupposition is questioning a supposed "right" to become a citizen and vote.

If the illegally ratified Fourteenth Amendment was supposed to grant some kind of "right" it was the granting of a privilege or immunity as the illegally ratified Fourteenth Amendment NEVER mentions "rights" of any kind.

Section 1.
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/amendmentxiv Read the entire amendment at that link

If you have accessed and read the illegally ratified Fourteenth Amendment, you can see that the word "rights" NEVER appears in that amendment. It talks about privileges and immunities. I did a Resistance Manual for those who want more info. Drop me a PM and a valid e mail addy. I can give you a link to the Manual on pdf. With regards to this subject we set out to show a few things. One of those things is that there are legal differences between unalienable Rights, inalienable rights and privileges / immunities that are mentioned in the illegally ratified Fourteenth Amendment. We will discuss that in this thread. The second thing we want to acknowledge is WHO grants you your Rights. Do you get your Rights from your Creator (your God, whomever you deem that to be) OR do you get "rights" by some grant of government? Obviously, if you get your "rights" from the government, then the government can take them back any time they choose. Finally, we're going to talk about the fact that the illegally ratified Fourteenth Amendment created two classes of citizens: Preamble Citizens and Fourteenth Amendment citizens. So, this can be a complicated thread OR it can be challenging and entertaining. Either way, you NEED this information. Stay tuned...

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That Pesky 14th Amendment Apr 26, 2023 19:56:10 GMT

Post by The Resister on Apr 26, 2023 19:56:10 GMT

Over on another board the regulars (the liberals) told other Whites to avoid me as I was a "neo-Confederate." That pesky illegally ratified Fourteenth Amendment. There are two problems with that:

1) Liberals want to silence anyone that disagrees with them. On that count, that pesky amendment is golden as per its interpretations and
2) My objections to the illegally ratified Fourteenth Amendment is that it created two classes of citizens. Preamble Citizens retained all of their God given Rights while Fourteenth Amendment citizens only get "privileges and immunities."

Once these two classes of citizens were created, the federal government set out to bring everyone under the umbrella of the Fourteenth Amendment. I won't remind you again that it was illegally ratified. Once everybody was brought under the Fourteenth Amendment, the federal government abolished the concept of unalienable Rights. Today, we have equal "rights," but the government doesn't acknowledge unalienable Rights. And there we begin our journey:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness." (an excerpt from the Declaration of Independence)

I want you to note a few things here. The first is that the founders presupposed that we have Rights bestowed upon us by a Creator (your God, whomever you deem that to be.) Those Rights, given by God, are unalienable. Early court holdings ruled that these unalienable Rights were natural, inherent, preexisting, irrevocable, absolute and above the law. That is the way that the courts defined unalienable Rights. Once the Fourteenth Amendment began to be interpreted by the courts, the "incorporated" the Bill of Rights into the Fourteenth Amendment. And, again, the Fourteenth Amendment does not mention Rights a single time. Secondly, the Fourteenth Amendment was created by government under the pretext of giving Blacks the "right" of citizenship.

Your unalienable Rights are given by a Creator. The privileges and immunities of the Fourteenth Amendment are granted by the government. Therefore, the government gets to decide if and when your "rights" (which are actually privileges and immunities) apply. To further confuse the issue, the federal government (more specifically the courts) then introduced a synonym of the word unalienable. That word is "inalienable." Then the federal government built a body of law around the word inalienable. An inalienable right is NOT natural, inherent, preexisting, irrevocable, absolute, God given and / or above the law. An inalienable right is granted by the government and subject to the government's regulations. Conspiracy theory?

The official word in the Declaration of Independence is unalienable. However, if you look in Black's Law Dictionary (the most authoritative legal dictionary accepted in the courts), the word unalienable no longer appears. And, if you look at how the word inalienable is defined in legal cases, it NEVER refers to a natural, inherent, preexisting, irrevocable, unalienable, God given, absolute Right that is above the law. NEVER. The two words inalienable and unalienable are defined differently in law. Your takeaway from the posting should be to understand who the grantor of a given Right is. Your Creator (your God, whomever you deem that to be) bestows upon you unalienable Rights to which you owe no person an obligation. The government bestows upon you inalienable rights (sic) that are subject to the government's regulations - which means they can rescind or repeal them or limit them as they see fit. And we'll delve into this in the course of this thread.

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That Pesky 14th Amendment May 15, 2023 19:56:22 GMT

Post by lee on May 15, 2023 19:56:22 GMT

This is all new to me in some way which is sad, that says how uneducated I am, and we are as a people. I took a Paralegal Class and realized more than ever just how important it is for every American to understand even the basic Law. Everyone views Laws differently or " interprets" differently which I think is total BS. The U.S. Constitution, Declaration of Independence just like the Holy Bible was all intended to be interpreted one way.

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That Pesky 14th Amendment May 19, 2023 2:44:45 GMT

Post by The Resister on May 19, 2023 2:44:45 GMT

The Bill of Rights was intended to be a limitation on the government AND a guarantee that the government would enforce your unalienable Rights. All went well until the passage of the illegally ratified Fourteenth Amendment. And, so, what happened?

The government said the Fourteenth Amendment was passed to guarantee Blacks a non-existent "right" to vote. If that were true, how come you see it mentioned in so many cases that don't have squat to do with voting?

This is a highly complex legal argument, but let's see what the law says relative to the "incorporation doctrine" in the Fourteenth Amendment:

"The incorporation doctrine is a constitutional doctrine through which parts of the first ten amendments of the United States Constitution (known as the Bill of Rights) are made applicable to the states through the Due Process clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. Incorporation applies both substantively and procedurally."

www.law.cornell.edu/wex/incorporation_doctrine

That is not a very good definition of the scope of incorporation, so it takes a long discussion to explain it all. You have to wonder if you access the above link why some parts of the Bill of Rights are covered in this court created doctrine and some parts of the Bill of Rights are only partially covered - or not at all. Why does any part of the Bill of Rights need to "incorporated" into the Bill of Rights? Can't the Bill of Rights stand on its own?

The reality is that the law now presumes that the government, not a Creator (as per the Declaration of Independence), bestows upon each of us our "rights" (sic.) It is ironic today, but Blacks don't have any unalienable Rights, but they have equal "rights" (privileges that Uncle Scam conditionally gives us) and the only thing the Fourteenth Amendment did was to have non-Whites transfer their slave status from private hands into the hands of the government.

To reiterate from earlier posts, through the act of changing words and definitions, the courts altered the meaning of the Constitution. The Fourteenth Amendment created two classes of citizens: Preamble Citizens and Fourteenth Amendment citizens. Preamble Citizens retained their unalienable Rights and were not a part of the de facto system and its system of slavery. If there is any future interest in pursuing this, I'd like to leave an important link. It is well worth pursuing if you read this far:

centre.telemanage.ca/links.nsf/articles/C33C98E582071B7F85256969004E3803

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