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Post by professorx on Jun 26, 2022 15:01:13 GMT
There are some serious prepping threads to come but for the moment we need to discuss something that is rarely addressed. There is no network for preppers. There are websites and discussion boards. There are even scores of stores both brick and mortar as well as online that cater to preppers but there is no organization. I'm not talking an organization like the NRA or Tea Party or that kind of organization.
What preppers have never had is a meeting of the minds. How do we know when the SHTF? How many of us actually know people in our own AO that could be of benefit to us? If you know people what unifies you in your community? What are preppers using as a medium of exchange - what do they use as an alternative to money? Gold? Silver? beans? A combination of commodities?
If people are to survive shouldn't they be agreed as to what constitutes an assault on their rights? If you are a prepper what precisely are you preparing for? It's not like the government is going to jump up one day and take control of everything in your life which would put people in a panic mode. The government is going to take control on an incremental basis as they've done for years. Without an agreement as to when the lines in the sand have been crossed how do we know that it's time to act right then or be ready to surrender? A lot of people don't want to state what their lines in the sand are. I get it. They live in fear that if they say what their lines are the government will come and get them. We can't live in fear of the government for the rest of our lives. We have to unified in a common purpose and a realistic plan for survival. Preppers for the most part plan for 30 days out to a couple of years at most. Suppose that happens and at the end of the period they prepped for we are living in really difficult times? What then? If they need a doctor in the meantime do they know a doctor right now that is a prepper? What if a prepper needs their car worked on by someone that does business off grid. Do you know who he or she is and where to find them? If federal reserve notes and banking are off the table for you how to you pay for goods and services? Thoughts?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2022 0:32:37 GMT
There are some serious prepping threads to come but for the moment we need to discuss something that is rarely addressed. There is no network for preppers. There are websites and discussion boards. There are even scores of stores both brick and mortar as well as online that cater to preppers but there is no organization. I'm not talking an organization like the NRA or Tea Party or that kind of organization. What preppers have never had is a meeting of the minds. How do we know when the SHTF? How many of us actually know people in our own AO that could be of benefit to us? If you know people what unifies you in your community? What are preppers using as a medium of exchange - what do they use as an alternative to money? Gold? Silver? beans? A combination of commodities? If people are to survive shouldn't they be agreed as to what constitutes an assault on their rights? If you are a prepper what precisely are you preparing for? It's not like the government is going to jump up one day and take control of everything in your life which would put people in a panic mode. The government is going to take control on an incremental basis as they've done for years. Without an agreement as to when the lines in the sand have been crossed how do we know that it's time to act right then or be ready to surrender? A lot of people don't want to state what their lines in the sand are. I get it. They live in fear that if they say what their lines are the government will come and get them. We can't live in fear of the government for the rest of our lives. We have to unified in a common purpose and a realistic plan for survival. Preppers for the most part plan for 30 days out to a couple of years at most. Suppose that happens and at the end of the period they prepped for we are living in really difficult times? What then? If they need a doctor in the meantime do they know a doctor right now that is a prepper? What if a prepper needs their car worked on by someone that does business off grid. Do you know who he or she is and where to find them? If federal reserve notes and banking are off the table for you how to you pay for goods and services? Thoughts? I am not a hardcore prepper. I grow some of my own vegetables and have a few months' supplies of water, gasoline, and batteries. Part of what you are talking about is economics and that is something I will address in detail later. Yes, the bottom will fall out soon. Do you see any chance of civil war? Because that would change the whole prepping strategy.
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Post by The Resister on Jun 27, 2022 3:37:01 GMT
There are some serious prepping threads to come but for the moment we need to discuss something that is rarely addressed. There is no network for preppers. There are websites and discussion boards. There are even scores of stores both brick and mortar as well as online that cater to preppers but there is no organization. I'm not talking an organization like the NRA or Tea Party or that kind of organization. What preppers have never had is a meeting of the minds. How do we know when the SHTF? How many of us actually know people in our own AO that could be of benefit to us? If you know people what unifies you in your community? What are preppers using as a medium of exchange - what do they use as an alternative to money? Gold? Silver? beans? A combination of commodities? If people are to survive shouldn't they be agreed as to what constitutes an assault on their rights? If you are a prepper what precisely are you preparing for? It's not like the government is going to jump up one day and take control of everything in your life which would put people in a panic mode. The government is going to take control on an incremental basis as they've done for years. Without an agreement as to when the lines in the sand have been crossed how do we know that it's time to act right then or be ready to surrender? A lot of people don't want to state what their lines in the sand are. I get it. They live in fear that if they say what their lines are the government will come and get them. We can't live in fear of the government for the rest of our lives. We have to unified in a common purpose and a realistic plan for survival. Preppers for the most part plan for 30 days out to a couple of years at most. Suppose that happens and at the end of the period they prepped for we are living in really difficult times? What then? If they need a doctor in the meantime do they know a doctor right now that is a prepper? What if a prepper needs their car worked on by someone that does business off grid. Do you know who he or she is and where to find them? If federal reserve notes and banking are off the table for you how to you pay for goods and services? Thoughts? I am not a hardcore prepper. I grow some of my own vegetables and have a few months' supplies of water, gasoline, and batteries. Part of what you are talking about is economics and that is something I will address in detail later. Yes, the bottom will fall out soon. Do you see any chance of civil war? Because that would change the whole prepping strategy. I'm pessimistic myself. We lived through TWO terms of Obama and, later, what millions of people believe was a fraudulent election. Then there were the trumped up charges (no pun intended) for the January 6 rally. The only thing that would cause a civil war has to be someone shutting the grid down. If the Internet went down, cell phones quit, tv stations couldn't broadcast and radio was limited, the people would rebel. If I were a white male between the ages of 18 and 21 I would definitely be on the edge of civil war. Maybe if the people in that age group refuse to join the military and / or become cops, attitudes will quickly change. Part of a good prepping strategy would be to make sure you are allied with people that have a lot in common with you. I see a few prepper types get together and it's neighbor teaching neighbor how to prepare. The only commonality they have is that they live in the same area. On every other count they might be polar opposites: different races, different religions, different political affiliations, different values, etc., etc. Imagine if the prepper you networked with happens to be on the other side of the political spectrum when the SHTF. You prepped and prepped and now you're going down. I'm always trying to prep for at least 6 months to a year, depending upon what it is we're talking about. Food has a short shelf live as do medicines. Six months is max. If you have age, weight, or dietary issues the old freeze dried stuff and MREs are not a great option. They are loaded with sodium. Invest in some heirloom seeds for the long haul. Now, for the major reply... If having a system to put in place of our financial system is the economics, then we should get serious about it. In my mind everybody plans for an internal civil war as it is more probable than being attacked. Most outside countries want to see us fail. Whether it is the mixed multitude versus the Posterity of the framers of the Constitution or the police and military enforcing unconstitutional globalist policies or a combination, I feel that most serious preppers have considered it in their plans. The Covid 19 crap gave us a mini look at what being quarantined would look like. The gas shortage is about to test us as well. But, right now unless all the 18 to 21 year olds stand up to fight back against the laws aimed against them, I hold no hope for a civil war. I only see capitulation. If I'm wrong, I will be more than happy to eat crow and admit it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2022 3:43:56 GMT
The ResisterI hope you sell that how as soon as you can because what we are going through now is in economics language is a - soft - landing. The Fed will soon raise interest rates to lower inflation and this will make property value go way down too. All the major signs of depression are her and on average it takes 5-8 years to get out of one.
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Post by professorx on Jun 27, 2022 14:20:33 GMT
There are some serious prepping threads to come but for the moment we need to discuss something that is rarely addressed. There is no network for preppers. There are websites and discussion boards. There are even scores of stores both brick and mortar as well as online that cater to preppers but there is no organization. I'm not talking an organization like the NRA or Tea Party or that kind of organization. What preppers have never had is a meeting of the minds. How do we know when the SHTF? How many of us actually know people in our own AO that could be of benefit to us? If you know people what unifies you in your community? What are preppers using as a medium of exchange - what do they use as an alternative to money? Gold? Silver? beans? A combination of commodities? If people are to survive shouldn't they be agreed as to what constitutes an assault on their rights? If you are a prepper what precisely are you preparing for? It's not like the government is going to jump up one day and take control of everything in your life which would put people in a panic mode. The government is going to take control on an incremental basis as they've done for years. Without an agreement as to when the lines in the sand have been crossed how do we know that it's time to act right then or be ready to surrender? A lot of people don't want to state what their lines in the sand are. I get it. They live in fear that if they say what their lines are the government will come and get them. We can't live in fear of the government for the rest of our lives. We have to unified in a common purpose and a realistic plan for survival. Preppers for the most part plan for 30 days out to a couple of years at most. Suppose that happens and at the end of the period they prepped for we are living in really difficult times? What then? If they need a doctor in the meantime do they know a doctor right now that is a prepper? What if a prepper needs their car worked on by someone that does business off grid. Do you know who he or she is and where to find them? If federal reserve notes and banking are off the table for you how to you pay for goods and services? Thoughts? I am not a hardcore prepper. I grow some of my own vegetables and have a few months' supplies of water, gasoline, and batteries. Part of what you are talking about is economics and that is something I will address in detail later. Yes, the bottom will fall out soon. Do you see any chance of civil war? Because that would change the whole prepping strategy. It is hard to lay odds on whether or not we will have a civil war. From a practical viewpoint many whites affected by the reverse discrimination would say yes. The immigration issue might be a catalyst. If the grid goes down odds are nearly 100 percent. Whites are not too big on martyrs in real fights. It is odd. They will go to prison for life over the most insane things. They go to prison over rallying in public and they will go to prison over a bad gun law but they don't go to war over constitutional breaches. Most will give you the non responsive reply and say let's wait and see. I think the odds are good enough that you should prepare for it. That means you should have a weapon with plenty of ammo and spare parts. I would be thinking body armor and civil defense strategies including a fall out shelter in your prepping plans. A safe room is good but in a war a fall out shelter is better. You can build your own so it is more about time than money. When the militia was active we had numerous discussions about the need to build a community within a community. As America transitions to a cashless society and the government tracking all of your buying habits it is necessary that we really start to build a community within our own community. That was the way it was always expressed. With things being what they are right now we do need to establish a system of barter - a way of doing business. Remember that if you are a small operation the government expects you to report anything over $600. This is from an article on the subject "As of Jan. 1, mobile payment apps like Venmo, PayPal and Cash App are required to report commercial transactions totaling more than $600 per year to the Internal Revenue Service." Also from the same article "In an explanatory document on the new tax changes, the IRS said these changes also apply to people who sell items on internet auction sites like eBay and people who "have a holiday craft business" www.nbcnews.com/news/venmo-paypal-zelle-must-report-600-transactions-irs-rcna11260The government can track what you own through your buying and selling. If you sell at a loss the government wants to tax you. If you are hoarding as the government calls it then what you own is subject to confiscation through an anti-hoarding provision in the Defense Production Act. The only way to safely build your preps is to do so a little at a time and buy as much as possible for cash. As we go to a cashless society we will have to make a change and operate on our own system. We should be starting that now.
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