Post by johndrake on Sept 27, 2024 16:48:49 GMT
When a person grows up in a given religious environment it almost feels like treason and betrayal to go against it. The primary reason for coming here was to toss a monkey wrench into the plans of a federal informant seeking to discredit one of this board's most senior members. It was a pleasure to be able to do it. Having faced the criticism of that Godless atheist on the one hand and meeting with members of the Anglo Israelite Christian Church on the other a funny thing happened. Yahweh intervened in my life and challenged me to stand up and test the spirits as per the Bible's mandate. Having faced the criticism of a dedicated atheist it became a personal challenge to test my own faith and either defend the people that had asked for it or disavow them. It ended in a conversion and today there is one more Christian Israelite on the board. This is personal and a chance to share those things that made a difference.
The first thing that captured my attention was the constant allegations by the board troll is that what is known about Christian Israelism has been debunked and that academia had rejected the premise that the Anglo Saxon, whites are the Israelites of the Bible. The second thing that became apparent was that the Godless atheist's allegations had no substance and finally the third thing was that the criticisms were a constant repetition of lies that have a sneaky way of revealing their own deceptiveness. Add that to the many times that Catholicism incorporated pagan practices and there it was. It became an issue of weighing the truth.
A good starting point is that the Bible does not teach that Adam and Eve were the first people on earth. It was pointed out that if there were only Adam and Eve, Cain and Abel, and Cain slew Abel you have to wonder about this land of Nod that Cain went to and took a wife. The Bible does not have anything to indicate that Cain took some innocent woman from the Garden of Eden to the land of Nod.
Then there was the story about the flood. The writers were not instructed by God when they wrote about it. They were only giving their impressions based upon what they believed the world consisted of. The flood was not world wide. History proves that.
Finally we get to the fact that in the original languages there is no word like Jew until the 1700s and even in the King James 1611 Bible it states "At that time Rezin king of Syria recoured Elath to Syria, & draue the Iewes form Elath and the Syrians came to Elath and dwelt there unto this day." II Kings 16:6 This is the first time we see this word Iewe appear in the Bible. It later becomes Jew and the important thing to note is that the first time the word is used The Iewes are at war with the Israelites showing that the two are distinct people. At that juncture it was just a matter of following recorded history to distinguish between Israel and Judah to determine who and who is not counted as God's elect in Christ.
Atheists make the claim as our board troll did that the Bible is mythical musings that cannot be proven. No wonder she prefers to try and debate me on forums that I am not even registered on. She accuses me of historical revisionism when in fact it is the modern churches and their apologists that are busy night and day revising interpretations and claiming that the interpretations of the past are somehow wrong. That is due to the politicizing of the Scriptures in order to get the masses on the side of multiculturalism. It is to her advantage to make up lies about history and the qualifications of the sources provided by the church that has now earned my support. Notice that in all her rants she never tells you about her qualifications. She offered no source material and worse she lied about current beliefs relative to the Christian Israel thesis. For instance nobody here ever said that any Jews believe in the Canaanite theory of seedlines. It was pointed out that some Jews believe in a seedline doctrine. They do. In all of the seedline narratives someone has to be the elect of God. Oddly in the Jewish version they admit that the Irish are Israelites. Let us move forward. If you would like to see what it looks like when someone starts off with a false premise click on the link below.
www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2018-11-14/ty-article-opinion/the-twisted-logic-of-the-jewish-historic-right-to-israel/0000017f-db53-d3ff-a7ff-fbf3bcc50000
Without endorsing any any particular person, church, or organization this is some of the material that influenced my conversion and you cannot access it and study it without it challenging something you believe. Some provided links follow.
us.columbuscatholic.org/resources/5-ways-we-can-find-proof-of-god-s-existence
bigthink.com/thinking/was-jesus-real/
ttps://www.truthfromgod.com/studies/adam_not_first_human.html
ia801209.us.archive.org/16/items/2seedsgenesis315/The%20Two%20Seeds%20of%20Genesis%203-15%20by%20Charles%20Lee%20Mange.pdf
Take a look. It will challenge every premise you ever had and cast doubts on the atheists that try and attack the research that has been provided by the Anglo Israelite Christian Church.
The first thing that captured my attention was the constant allegations by the board troll is that what is known about Christian Israelism has been debunked and that academia had rejected the premise that the Anglo Saxon, whites are the Israelites of the Bible. The second thing that became apparent was that the Godless atheist's allegations had no substance and finally the third thing was that the criticisms were a constant repetition of lies that have a sneaky way of revealing their own deceptiveness. Add that to the many times that Catholicism incorporated pagan practices and there it was. It became an issue of weighing the truth.
A good starting point is that the Bible does not teach that Adam and Eve were the first people on earth. It was pointed out that if there were only Adam and Eve, Cain and Abel, and Cain slew Abel you have to wonder about this land of Nod that Cain went to and took a wife. The Bible does not have anything to indicate that Cain took some innocent woman from the Garden of Eden to the land of Nod.
Then there was the story about the flood. The writers were not instructed by God when they wrote about it. They were only giving their impressions based upon what they believed the world consisted of. The flood was not world wide. History proves that.
Finally we get to the fact that in the original languages there is no word like Jew until the 1700s and even in the King James 1611 Bible it states "At that time Rezin king of Syria recoured Elath to Syria, & draue the Iewes form Elath and the Syrians came to Elath and dwelt there unto this day." II Kings 16:6 This is the first time we see this word Iewe appear in the Bible. It later becomes Jew and the important thing to note is that the first time the word is used The Iewes are at war with the Israelites showing that the two are distinct people. At that juncture it was just a matter of following recorded history to distinguish between Israel and Judah to determine who and who is not counted as God's elect in Christ.
Atheists make the claim as our board troll did that the Bible is mythical musings that cannot be proven. No wonder she prefers to try and debate me on forums that I am not even registered on. She accuses me of historical revisionism when in fact it is the modern churches and their apologists that are busy night and day revising interpretations and claiming that the interpretations of the past are somehow wrong. That is due to the politicizing of the Scriptures in order to get the masses on the side of multiculturalism. It is to her advantage to make up lies about history and the qualifications of the sources provided by the church that has now earned my support. Notice that in all her rants she never tells you about her qualifications. She offered no source material and worse she lied about current beliefs relative to the Christian Israel thesis. For instance nobody here ever said that any Jews believe in the Canaanite theory of seedlines. It was pointed out that some Jews believe in a seedline doctrine. They do. In all of the seedline narratives someone has to be the elect of God. Oddly in the Jewish version they admit that the Irish are Israelites. Let us move forward. If you would like to see what it looks like when someone starts off with a false premise click on the link below.
www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2018-11-14/ty-article-opinion/the-twisted-logic-of-the-jewish-historic-right-to-israel/0000017f-db53-d3ff-a7ff-fbf3bcc50000
Without endorsing any any particular person, church, or organization this is some of the material that influenced my conversion and you cannot access it and study it without it challenging something you believe. Some provided links follow.
us.columbuscatholic.org/resources/5-ways-we-can-find-proof-of-god-s-existence
bigthink.com/thinking/was-jesus-real/
ttps://www.truthfromgod.com/studies/adam_not_first_human.html
ia801209.us.archive.org/16/items/2seedsgenesis315/The%20Two%20Seeds%20of%20Genesis%203-15%20by%20Charles%20Lee%20Mange.pdf
Take a look. It will challenge every premise you ever had and cast doubts on the atheists that try and attack the research that has been provided by the Anglo Israelite Christian Church.
