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Build Your AR Today! Jul 24, 2022 2:54:02 GMT

Post by The Resister on Jul 24, 2022 2:54:02 GMT

Throughout my life the media has had it in for gun owners. They wanted to outlaw Saturday Night Specials, Sniper weapons, and then handguns. Later they went after the MAC 10, Streetsweeper, FN/FAL, Uzi, and the AK 47 "style / type" rifles. Today everything in all about the AR 15. There were semi-automatic import bans, ammunition bans, magazine bans, and bans on imported parts. Through legislation and Executive Orders, just about everything has been done to wage wars against firearms, one weapon class at a time, one kind of part at a time, and one feature at a time.

In about four weeks from now a rule is going into effect that will prohibit people from buying (maybe owning?) 80 percent receivers. So, what is an 80 percent receiver? Normally this is the serialized part of a firearm. For decades (or longer) people have been buying 80 percent lower receivers to build prop guns, replica weapons and even to finish them off into fully usable receivers on which to build a firearm. These receivers are 80 percent completed so until the rule goes into effect, you can still purchase the lower receivers and build your own AR 15 rifle. Normally this would take machine shop equipment or a 3d printer (which is a topic over my head):

There are three ways of acquiring an AR 15 (aka AR 15 "style") rifle: build it, buy it, or steal it. It is a federal offense to steal a firearm. That's hard time. Federal time. I don't suggest that. You can buy an AR 15 and, with the market being saturated, you can buy a used one for a remarkable discount. If you build your own rifle, you can build it to your personal specifications. Retail rifles can be as low as $500 (some used ones are around that price point as well as really JUNK AR rifles. Some of the better ones go for three thousand dollars and more. So, what do I mean build an AR to your own specifications?

The AR platform (again talking about that lower receiver) is used for pistols, short barreled rifles, carbines, full size rifles, and target grade Designated Marksman rifles with longer barrels. There are a variety of calibers as well ranging from .22 LR to .50 BMG. To each his own, but I am not a fan of the AR pistol as you have to be good to make one work reliably. It's just too big, in my opinion to be a pistol. Some people make pistols out of the AR and put a stabilizing brace on them. The rules are too hard to understand, but a braced pistol is too easy to become a "short barreled rifle." If you build one of those you have to pay a separate tax, go through special licensing requiring in depth background checks, and get a tax stamp before you build it. Since I've never owned one, if you buy it at a retail store, they probably make you wait for months before you can buy it as the BATFE checks a person out before giving the green light. If you have an unregistered short barreled rifle, it's worth a lot of hard time years in federal prison. It's not worth the risk of having one. If you have an illegal weapon, where are you going to shoot it? If you can't shoot it and practice with it, what use is it?

Back to building a firearm. I'll leave a few links that you can use over the next few weeks if you want to invest in an 80 percent receiver. People will probably turn to making their own after that rule goes into effect, but owning them may become a crime. If you have to, you can always find someone with a lower for sale. LOTS of people start out to build their own and get easily intimidated. I want to stick a couple of links that should be good for a few days or so:

www.wikiarms.com/group/ar15lowers80percent?utm_source=fpdeals

thundertactical.com/product-category/ar-15/ar-15-80-lowers/

If you don't have a machine shop, finishing an 80 percent lower requires you to buy a jig, have access to a drill press, and a dremel tool. If you don't want to go that route, there are plenty of places to get a complete AR lower, but you do have to register it when you buy it.*

* Some people what to deny the truth about what is. I will look at what was said above in the political forum just in case someone decides to troll me later for what I just posted.

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Build Your AR Today! Jul 25, 2022 3:40:57 GMT

Post by The Resister on Jul 25, 2022 3:40:57 GMT

There aren't a lot of views for this topic, so I'll wrap it up in this post unless someone has a question or wants to offer other opinions.

When you go onto most sites that tell you they will tell you all you need to know how to build an AR, they start with this grandstanding about "it all depends upon what you intend to use your rifle for." Let me cut through all of that. If you are looking for an AR pistol, be forewarned there is a condition called "overgassing" and it is a problem that the AR is noted for. It is partially the reason that AR pistols have a bad reputation for not being the most reliable weapon. So, I won't address them. I won't discuss short barreled rifles as they are sure to be outlawed and confiscated at some point. That is why the law is so vague and they want you to register them and pay an extra tax for them. I won't be discussing competition nor target rifles, especially those employing stainless steel barrels. I am not a fan of the barrels that are around 14 inches in length and you weld a flash hider on to make the rifle of "legal" length. That two inches in barrel length makes a lot of difference in things like accuracy, velocity, etc. no matter how small. My concern would be that you can go with a shorter flash suppressor on a 16 inch carbine barrel and still be the same over all length (OAL) as the buy with a welded on flash suppressor.

I'm just going to tell you what works of a good SHTF defensive rifle if your life depends on it. If you just want an AR 15 for the "cool" look and don't value your life, stop here and go buy a $500 AR, put feel good aftermarket parts on it and it will look cool leaning up against the wall in your house. OR, try this which is the result of, perhaps thousands, hours of intensive research and a life of trying different things with the AR platform.

If you want the most reliable, fail safe, dependable AR on the market, get a POF gas piston rifle for a tad over $2100 before scope, mags, ammo, cleaning kit, maintenance tools, lights, lasers, etc. :

pof-usa.com/firearm/p415-edge/

Between the $500 rifle and the $2100 rifle, you can build a really good rifle for about $1200 give or take, depending on your tastes. You can get into the $800 range if you want to save on a couple of parts. Let me tell you the difference between the price points. A $500 AR has a phosphate barrel with no chrome lining. They are not intended for serious use and cannot take sustained fire for any amount of time. If you're into mag dumps or want your life to depend on a rifle, this is the first thing to consider. The ideal barrel will be a chrome lined, hammer forged barrel with a 1 x 7 or 1 x 8 twist rate of barrel. Rifles that utilize these barrels should be marked with CHF and maybe the barrel twist rate on them. The next thing to consider is that there are three gas system lengths for the barrel: carbine length for the barrel, a mid length for carbines and rifle length gas system for the barrel. If you choose a carbine (aka the M4 style of AR 15) get a CHF barrel with the mid length gas system.

The next important feature is the bolt. There are basically two kinds of material the bolt is made of: 9310 and 158 Carpenter Steel. I've read all kinds of pros and cons, but the military specification is 158 Carpenter Steel. Dollar for dollar, the Nickel Boron bolt carrier group with 158 Carpenter Steel bolt is super reliable and Toolcraft makes some of the best. There are others, but plenty of pros trust their life to Toolcraft.

The next major difference between cheap rifles and great ones is the trigger group. The better deals are combat trigger groups that usually go for about $90. I'll leave a link, but you should Google Primary Arms, PSA, etc. for competitive prices:

www.opticsplanet.com/alg-defense-combat-trigger-act.html

There are other drop in triggers (depending on your tastes, but I'm more into a SHTF rifle discussion as opposed to the Designated Marksman rifle.

The next major difference between the $500 rifle and one you would trust your life to is the rail that covers the barrel. These can be anywhere from $50 to $350. You can find a good Troy, Atlas, Midwest Industries, or other quality rail for $100 to $150 or so dollars:

www.pewpewtactical.com/best-ar-15-handguards/

Hitting the home stretch, sights are a major concern unless your are going to use optics as a primary way to shoot your rifle. IF you are going to use an optic, you can do with something like use Magpul BUIS and if you rely on the sights and want quality ones, use the Troy sights:

www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00420NE8O/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B00420NE8O&linkCode=as2&tag=gungearlabi04-20&linkId=f15021525d72105a4bf5b703553e585b

Beyond that you can change out a factory stock for a really good one and that will cost you another $50.

If there is a conversation here, you know how to post OR PM me if you're shy.

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Build Your AR Today! Oct 28, 2023 17:26:42 GMT TheRealCuriousFiend likes this

Post by The Resister on Oct 28, 2023 17:26:42 GMT

Since the time I began that thread the United States Supreme Court has stayed an order to force manufacturers to cease selling 80 percent receivers pending the outcome of legislation. AND, since the people don't want to get involved in stopping mass shootings without gun control, the government is going to come down hard on gun owners. The end of due process, National Gun Registration and eventually a ban on firearms is imminent.

For the most part the 80 percent receiver deal is a no go unless you become a criminal. I'm sure if you had a 3d laser printer and a hunk of metal you could make a receiver. If you got caught, it would mean a long stay in federal prison. So many people can potentially rat you out: a scorned wife, angry girlfriend, the criminal relative that may need some dirt on you to avoid jail time him or her self or maybe the thief that burglarizes your home and needs leverage to beat the rap. Maybe your house catches fire and, in putting the fire out, first responders see your stash. It's risky.

The end of America is not coming - IT IS HERE! Most of you would be well advised to finish off your preparations in the coming weeks. In the years I've been involved in the movement, I have NEVER sounded the alarm. America has never been this close to the end of the Republic either.

There is a lot of good information out there on how to build weapons and / or certain components (i.e. how to assemble an upper for instance.) If you built it, you can fix it. If weapons are illegal, it won't be like you can magically find a gunsmith to work under the table. If they were that easy to find, you wouldn't have accessed this thread. Don't fall for the idiocy bandied about by nitwits that are going to prison. Buying a legal firearm and then lying and saying you lost it in a boating accident won't fly in the future. They are passing laws to require that you report all lost or stolen firearms. If you lie to authorities, that's a charge. Then if they find your weapon, that's another charge. Do you want two potential felonies to deal with?

Finally this: If you're smart you will buy books (with binding and paper pages) rather than getting information off the Internet. DVDs are preferable to streaming since Uncle Scam can see what you're accessing on your computer. Old school will help protect your privacy. Don't create a problem for yourself. MANY people go to prison for buying legal stuff via the Internet (or other methods that track your purchases be it debit cards, Paypal, Zelle, Cashap, etc.) You buy a legal product; it becomes illegal and if you don't turn it in, the feds find you via your purchase history. That's what you're up against and forewarned is forearmed.

NOTHING HERE IS INTENDED TO BE LEGAL ADVICE OR ADVOCACY OF ANYTHING ILLEGAL. THIS IS PURELY EDUCATIONAL AND HYPOTHETICAL FOR THOSE CONTEMPLATING FUTURE ACTIONS.

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