Was America founded on Christian principles?

I found that I would be taking up a lot of bandwidth to say what others have already said. Take the case of United States Supreme Court Justice David Brewer:

www.fggam.org/2014/03/this-is-a-christian-nation-u-s-supreme-court-1892-justice-brewer/

That is some impressive stuff.

christianheritagefellowship.com/supreme-court-declares-america-christian

Those two sources should convince you or at least challenge you to think about it. So, what went wrong? I'll cover that in the next post.

Insofar as who wrote the words in the Declaration of Independence, that would be Thomas Jefferson. As to the usage of the terminology, it was explained in a sermon of that era:

founding.com/natures-god/

You have to consider a few things to make it easier to put this into perspective:

At the time of the drafting of the Declaration of Independence, there were many different denominations of Christians trying to escape religious persecution. That did not mean they wanted to abandon their belief in God
Some denominations believed that we should not use a specific name of God, so you will note that Creator is capitalized so as to acknowledge God
Jefferson considered himself a Christian; however, his views were not in the mainstream and he wanted to create a document that everybody would be willing to support

If you had read the Virginia Constitution of 1776 to which Jefferson was consulted and supported, the previous quote (with a link in the earlier post) answers this. This short article will help in clearing this up for you:

thefederalistpapers.org/current-events/what-is-the-law-of-natures-god

In this case, going back to that era when the Declaration of Independence was written, the usage of the terminology during the era is best evidence.

I stand corrected.

I said that the first governing document of the New World was the Mayflower Compact. In fact, there were Charters issued before that. The earliest was probably the Virginia Charter of 1606. I found this on page 58:

"III. We greatly commending, and graciously accepting of, their desires for the furtherance of so noble a work, which may, by the providence of Almighty God, hereafter tend to the glory of his divine Majesty, in propagating of Christian religion to such people, as yet live in darkness and miserable ignorance of the true knowledge and worship of God, and may in time bring the infidels and savages, living in those parts, to human civility, and to a settled and quiet government; Do, by these our letters pattents, graciously accept of, and agree to, their humble and well intended desires;..."

Be that as it may, there is a LOT of proof for us to look at and if there is interest, I'd love to post it. But, for now, I'd like to finish up answering weaponoffreedom. He asked:

"I have heard this from many people, but one thing I just dont get...........what proof is there that the US was founded on Christian principles, and if so, then how has the US become so anti-christian? It would seem to me, that such a country founded on the truths of Jesus Christ, would not be so easily sway to be so anti-christ. Can anyone explain this?"

RESPONSE: Throughout recorded history, ever since Adam and Eve, Adam kind has sinned. Adamic man is born with a sin nature. Remember how it all started with Eve disobeying God? The Bible itself declares:

"for all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;" Romans 3: 23

Every man, woman and child that you know or ever will know is a liar, thief, adulterer ...sinner in general. That is you, me and everyone we know. And most people (the masses) are sinners and Democrats. Recall how Moses went up to receive the Ten Commandments and whilst he was doing that the people had a democratic vote and chose to worship the Golden Calf in Moses absence. Majority rule has been around a long time.

In America, as fast as the people could begin building with a noble purpose, there were those wanting to destroy the entire concept of Liberty. As an example, there was the formation of the Illuminati in 1776. There is no dispute that it did exist; it did have an agenda; there were unwitting (and maybe men wittingly working) on behalf of globalism from the beginning. There has always been some group or organization to take up the agenda of the Illuminati even if we presume it doesn't exist. You have probably read about the Bildeberg Group, Club of Rome, Trilateral Commission or maybe the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR.) The basic agenda has existed in one form or another for eons. And look at the alumni which boasts people like George Soros. OR how about some of the people connected to Donald J Trump? There were people like Rupert Murdoch (who also controlled Fox News and may still for all I know); there is Anthony Scaramucci and Stacey Abrams (the only Democrat Trump endorsed in this election cycle.) That stuff has been going on a long time.

For purposes of this thread, I think that a Christian America represented the majority until the mid 1960s. In my opinion, if you asked people in their 50s, 60s, 70s, etc. when America was last a great country, they would be talking about a time around the mid to late 1960s. Just prior to the mid 1960s the courts began to rule against Christians and by the 1960s it was beginning to be felt. From there, it was like a Tsunami. There were other things in place as well, but I will only hit a few high spots:

1868 the 14th Amendment is illegally ratified. It promised to give blacks a "right" to vote, but it has been used to nullify the Bill of Rights
In 1913 the income tax was passed. It was a taken directly out of the Communist Manifesto and is one of the major amendments that was illegally ratified
1947 The United States Supreme Court concocted the doctrine of a separation of church and state which meant 180 degrees opposite of what the author meant when he coined the phrase. The high Court justified their assault on the Constitution by citing the illegally ratified 14th Amendment. See this too:

wallbuilders.com/separation-church-state/

In 1954 The United States Supreme Court outlawed segregation in Brown v. Board of Education
1962 - Prayer is taken out of the public schools (174 years AFTER the ratification of the Constitution) Engle v. Vitale
1965 the Hart Cellar Act is passed and that began our country's immigration woes
In 1967 the United States Supreme Court FORCED Americans to recognize inter-racial marriage - and now the whole LGBTQP thing

All of that would be followed up by Affirmative Action, busing, integration, "civil rights," assaults on family values, taxing churches that failed to incorporate secular humanism into their tenets of faith, assaults on property Rights (eminent domain abuses), etc., etc. ad infinitum. Today the left has taken down our flags, statues, monuments, plaques, memorials and portraits of the leaders of our nation. They are changing the names of government buildings, schools and street signs. Even military bases like Fort Hood have undergone a name change (which is now Fort Cavazos - named after a Hispanic.)

All of this started when we tried that multicultural experiment which has failed and now the nonwhite / non-Christian forces are eliminating white Christians from the United States. It is the greatest war of subtle genocide that has ever been fought and not a shot will be fired while the heathen take over the former United States of America hereinafter known as the United Socialist States of Amerika.

We're only talking some highlights. If we discuss this, it will be many paragraphs of examples and timelines.

Okay, so I have gotten PMs and witnessed on a couple of discussion boards about questions regarding the race issue. Why should it matter in the grand scheme of things as we discuss a Christian nation. It's a good question and I have a reply albeit a long one.

America was founded on the twin pillars of race and religion. The average colonist was a white Christian that believed they were an Israelite and that America is the regathering spot for lost Israel. As such, within weeks of the ratification of the Constitution, Congress limited citizenship to "free white persons" in the first immigration law passed in the United States:

www.politico.com/story/2012/03/the-united-states-enacts-first-immigration-law-074438#:~:text=The%20Naturalization%20Act%20of%201790%20specified%20that%20%E2%80%9Cany,application%20was%20filed%20for%20at%20least%20a%20year.

In keeping with God's laws the colonists had laws against miscegenation. Today we call it inter-racial marriage:

"The first ever anti-miscegenation law was passed by the Maryland General Assembly in 1691"

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-miscegenation_laws

Then the colonies, like most other places on the globe, got involved in the practice of slavery. Contrary to popular belief, the United States did not start slavery; the federal government never legalized slavery; slavery is not even a "moral" issue. That subject alone has been misrepresented and lied about that it would take several books to explain the truth. ALL of this plays its way into American culture, a Christian nation and a country that operates on Anglo Saxon / English Common Law. Non-white forces have lined up to declare war against the status quo and bring down white Christian culture. Equality didn't change the bottom line. From the black peoples perspective, U.S.Representative Thomas Abernethy read into the Congressional Record in 1957 during a debate on the Civil Rights Act from a book entitled "A Racial Program for the Twentieth Century" the following quote:

"We must realize that our party's most powerful weapon is racial tensions. By propounding into the consciousness of the dark races that for centuries they have been oppressed by whites, we can mold them to the program of the Communist Party. In America we will aim for subtle victory. While inflaming the Negro minority against the whites, we will endeavor to instill in the whites a guilt complex for their exploitation of the Negroes. We will aid the Negroes to rise in prominence in every walk of life, in the professions and in the world of sports and entertainment. With this prestige, the Negro will be able to intermarry with the whites and begin a process which will deliver America to our cause."

In today's society that has been realized and whites are now a minority in the U.S. and every facet of its culture is under assault. Our culture also explains the resistance to immigration. But, without a return to those principles, America WILL continue to run over by foreign ideologies until the white race has been obliterated from the face of the earth. The assault on our foundational principles is an assault against the Christian religion AND against the white race. Christians have compromised their religion until CHRISTIANS don't believe in the laws of God; they have introduced pagan and Satanic influences into their own religion and the masses don't respect Christians because most of them are blatantly hypocritical and have NO moral compass. Americans views about race, religion and the phony doctrine about the equality of man are threats that we either deal with OR accept as being the problem IF our objective is to submit to the advances of the NEW WORLD ORDER.

I am hopeful that the OP will return. Full disclosure:

The OP and I met on another board where some off topic discussion is taking place that is interrelated to this discussion. At this juncture, it's impossible to tell if he's getting any benefit off the information, but I wanted to say a few things relative to this. On virtually every board that I participate on and this or immigration comes up, I get banned. People don't want the truth. Maybe this poster is different. We won't know for a couple more posts. So, I'd like to switch gears and address a couple of issues before they make their way onto the board.

The atheists claim that the founders and framers were atheists and deists at best. Supposedly they wanted a complete divorce from religion. As evidence of that they claim that a founder said:

“As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen (Muslims); and as the said States never entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mahometan (Mohammedan) nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.”

Actually, the quote comes from the 1797 Treaty of Tripoli. This is quite controversial and I suppose most Christians should throw in the white towel and concede defeat. Right? WRONG. Here is the rest of the story on that controversy:

"Article 11 has been and is a point of contention in popular culture disputes on the doctrine of separation of church and state as it applies to the founding principles of the United States. Some religious spokesmen claim that—despite unanimous ratification by the U.S. Senate of the text in English which contained Article 11—the page containing Article 11 is missing from the Arabic version of the treaty.[13] The contemporaneous purpose of Article 11 was to make clear that the United States was a secular state[15] and to reassure the Muslims that the agreement was not with an extension of earlier Christian nations that took part in the Crusades...

According to Frank Lambert, Professor of History at Purdue University, the assurances in Article 11 were "intended to allay the fears of the Muslim state by insisting that religion would not govern how the treaty was interpreted and enforced. John Adams and the Senate made clear that the pact was between two sovereign states, not between two religious powers." Lambert writes,

By their actions, the Founding Fathers made clear that their primary concern was religious freedom, not the advancement of a state religion. Individuals, not the government, would define religious faith and practice in the United States. Thus the Founders ensured that in no official sense would America be a Christian Republic. Ten years after the Constitutional Convention ended its work, the country assured the world that the United States was a secular state, and that its negotiations would adhere to the rule of law, not the dictates of the Christian faith. The assurances were contained in the Treaty of Tripoli of 1797 and were intended to allay the fears of the Muslim state by insisting that religion would not govern how the treaty was interpreted and enforced. John Adams and the Senate made clear that the pact was between two sovereign states, not between two religious powers

A prominent member of Adams' cabinet, Secretary of War James McHenry, claimed that he protested the language of Article 11 before its ratification. He wrote to Secretary of the Treasury Oliver Wolcott, Jr., September 26, 1800: "The Senate, my good friend, and I said so at the time, ought never to have ratified the treaty alluded to, with the declaration that 'the government of the United States, is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.' What else is it founded on? This act always appeared to me like trampling upon the cross. I do not recollect that Barlow was even reprimanded for this outrage upon the government and religion."[19]

In 1931 Hunter Miller completed a commission by the United States government to analyze United States' treaties and to explain how they function and what they mean to the United States' legal position in relationship with the rest of the world.[21] According to Hunter Miller's notes, "the Barlow translation is at best a poor attempt at a paraphrase or summary of the sense of the Arabic" and "Article 11 ... does not exist at all."

Excerpts from en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Tripoli

So, sorry guys. The Treaty of Tripoli is a non sequitir. It is something taken out of context and, in the final analysis, doesn't exist at all. I'll do another post to take on even more of this atheistic nonsense.

Having followed the atheists arguing for a belief that this country was founded by people that OPPOSED Christianity, I've had to dismantle their arguments to the point that, even if they fail to come here and make their case, we can still take their arguments apart. I want you to know my purpose in this approach. Whether we like it or not, our system of government and our values (what we think in terms of right and wrong) determine who we are as a people. Somebody's concept of right and wrong will win out. The atheists, humanists and other non-Christians have had the balance of power for over a half century. America has been run by humanists and non-Christians for that long.

So, I went to a website and found a number of so - called "proofs" to show we are not a Christian nation as per those humanists, atheists, etc. Here is a typical laundry list of arguments and I'll respond to some of them:

- John Adams was supposedly against the concept of a Christian America due to the Treaty of Tripoli. We debunked that lie in an earlier thread and explained it
- Some people argue that since Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Paine did not believe in the Trinity, they were not Christians and, therefore, America was founded by atheists.
REALITY CHECK - Of the 56 men who signed the Declaration of Independence, at least 50 were Trinitarians. There were 23 Christians representing the clergy that signed the Declaration of Independence:

qa.answers.com/Q/How_many_signers_of_the_Declaration_of_Independence_were_clergy

One can only wonder how atheists reconcile the facts with the lies that they knowingly spread. Take this for instance:

"The general principles in which the fathers achieved independence, were the only principles on which that beautiful assembly of young men could unite, and these principles only could be intended by them in their address, or by me in my answer. And what were these general principles? I answer, the general principles of Christianity, in which all those sects were united, and the general principles of English and American liberty..." John Adams in a letter dated 28 June 1813

wallbuilders.com/general-principles-christianity-context-leading-adams-june-28-1813-letter-jefferson/

The balance of what the atheists and non-Christians concoct is easily refuted. I want to do another post like this, as stated, if just for Posterity.