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Post by The Resister on Nov 25, 2022 19:46:18 GMT
There are times when a person looks at a job they did and decide to start over. This thread existed, but all of the posts were deleted because this subject needs a better explanation than what we started out with. This thread was made necessary after we replied to a poster who asked for proof that America was founded as a Christian nation: resisters.freeforums.net/thread/165/america-founded-on-christian-principlesHaving created a backdrop for this, we now move to the Conspiracy View of History. We don't use the terminology conspiracy theory because a theory is no longer a theory when it has been proven by fact. Most of us have a world view regardless of whether we spent years of intense study or we got our information from the Internet, talk shows, discussion boards, social media, the tv, etc. Some people were first enlightened by stories of the Freemasons and the Illuminati and its connections to a NEW WORLD ORDER / One World Government. Others may have been taught about Satan and some version of the Book of Revelation. Our reality is that whether you believe in religion or not and regardless of which side you're on, the whole subject revolves around history and religion because that is where the principals on all sides trace their involvement. Your fears might be about immigration, Critical Race Theory, globalism, unemployment, world wars, inflation, rigged elections, the war against religion, the assault on the traditional family, the takeover by the LGBTQP forces, gun control, Drug Nation USA or maybe some other issue of the day. We're all concerned and we all want a solution to whatever problem (s) we might perceive. In order to do that we have to understand the problem and identify it properly. It's not enough to just say the globalists are flooding the country with immigrants in an effort to subvert our culture and put our country into poverty to insure the globalists can take over whenever they like. It's not enough to say that the left wants to take away our guns to make sure we go into the NEW WORLD ORDER without resistance. No. Words are cheap. We have to understand the root of the problem and then develop a solution that targets the specific problem. In coming posts that is exactly what I hope to do.
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Post by noclevername on Nov 27, 2022 16:43:08 GMT
Before you get deep into this if you recall you were doing a topic about how to be a man. It was really interesting. It was put on the back burner when you responded to the topic about America and Christian principles. It would be appreciated if you would go back and finish how to be a man. It could be helpful to a lot of men that didn't didn't get that kind of insight early in life.
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Post by The Resister on Nov 28, 2022 5:22:35 GMT
Before you get deep into this if you recall you were doing a topic about how to be a man. It was really interesting. It was put on the back burner when you responded to the topic about America and Christian principles. It would be appreciated if you would go back and finish how to be a man. It could be helpful to a lot of men that didn't didn't get that kind of insight early in life. Your wish is my command. Most of these threads are being done for Posterity since nobody is really commenting on them, so I will honor your request and add to this a little at a time as well. Since I want to give everyone a preview of the kinds of posts to look forward here, let me say this: You may be interested in the NEW WORLD ORDER, Club of Rome, Trilateral Commission, Bilderbergers, Freemasonry, liberalism, progressivism, socialism, globalism, the destruction of America via the Federal Reserve, One World Government; you may express your fears in the language of the woke mob, Critical Race Theory, " illegal" immigrants, the liberal left, or some other political or social ill that we're suffering from. I hope that we can address all of them. I hope that we can talk about them intelligently and honestly. To that end, as a preview, in order to understand those subject you must be told that all of it has a religious component that is rooted in the Bible. Don't worry. I won't be trying to convert you. I'm merely pointing out that from a Christian perspective most (if not all) of the above are rooted in Bible believing Christians defending themselves against what they believe to be inherently evil. Non-Christians sometimes join the fight against those evils and I am not going to try and guess at how they decide what is good or bad from their world view. They are not being told that they have to believe in the Bible in order to know where this battle began. That shouldn't take but a couple of posts (God willing) and then we can pivot as to HOW those other groups and ideologies evolved. Stay tuned.
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Post by The Resister on Nov 29, 2022 21:29:08 GMT
Whether you realize it or not, each of us has a world view. It doesn't matter how deeply you believe, but you believe. You may become obsessed with chasing down and nailing specifics OR you might just buy into the popular B.S. line of the day and accept it as your personal agenda. Either way, you have a world view and you don't have to get a degree in philosophy in order to understand a few basic concepts. How do you determine right from wrong? That is the key to correctly understanding the genesis of all these ideologies previously mentioned. Let's start at the beginning: Most people have heard the story supposedly from the Bible where Eve talked to a snake, ate an apple and was punished by God. Actually that is NOT what happened and if you want the whole story, start with the abridged version and read this link: archive.org/details/2seedsgenesis315 To save time, let us discuss what is relevant. In Genesis 3: 14 - 16 the Bible states: " 14 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life: 15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. 16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee." Here begins the great war between the seed of the serpent and seed of the woman (Adam kind versus the seed of the serpent.) From a biblical perspective this begins to explain the concepts of good and evil as Christians understood the narrative. It is important to point out that this is a Christian perspective as America was founded on Christian principles and the average American world view is still predicated upon those principles. For example, we see in Genesis 3: 16 where our custom that the man be the head of the house emanated from. You don't have to believe in Christianity to believe in the values, but it is imperative that you know, for a fact, where our values originated from. Think about that and we will continue on later - unless someone has the courage to post something relevant to the topic thus far.
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Post by The Resister on Dec 28, 2022 23:06:00 GMT
Wow! A month later and I'm finally back to this thread. It seems we didn't miss much as literally nobody has commented, asked questions and maybe not even read this thread. Let's start here: I don't deal in conspiracy theories. Whether you believe in the Bible or not is also irrelevant. Those who believe and / or act on the basis of the Bible do so because that is what they believe. I'm merely going into the origins of the conspiracy and it is a conspiracy because an effort does exist to (in their own words) establish a NEW WORLD ORDER. Here is a link to a site that condenses the overall plan: www.facts-are-facts.com/article/the-goals-of-the-illuminatiNow, let's get this straight: I may not agree with every statement or conclusion that my links arrive at. This one is given for the indisputable facts only. There is a problem with the conspiracy theory of history. Too many people begin to use it as a religion and others begin to imagine all kinds of conspiracies AND conspiracies within conspiracies. Add to that the real conspirators help to create and perpetuate conspiracy theories to discredit the people that buy into every conceivable conspiracy theory on the face of God's green earth. If the conspirators create doubt about a conspiracy theory the conspirators created, they can discredit the entire concept. Let me give you an example: There was a book published in 1967 entitled The Report From Iron Mountain. Supposedly a Special Study Group consisting of fifteen men that concludes with the notion that war is necessary for the conspirators to gain control of America. The book was on the New York Times bestseller list. The right, never able to admit when they've been played, doubled down on trying to convince people of the authenticity of the report, but the truth was embarrassing. It turns out Leonard Lewin was the real author. Lewin was a left wing labor organizer that authored the hoax and ultimately settled out of court with Liberty Lobby. Liberty Lobby had told the people that the report was from a government document in the public domain. It turns out it wasn't and Lewin was able to settle for an undisclosed amount of money and Liberty Lobby had to turn over more than a thousand unsold copies of the report to Lewin. Lewin made the right look like buffoons'(although SOME of the report does contain factual material we had rather not admit to) and the belief in that hoax discredits the people who do have a concern over the legitimate conspiracy. The propaganda wars are the most effective in keeping the truth silent. Now, back to the conspiracy view of history. I call it a view rather than a conspiracy because its roots are biblical and those on either side practice the division in ideology as if the biblical narrative is truth and that is regardless of whether or not those on either side actually believe in God.
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Post by The Resister on Dec 30, 2022 3:30:56 GMT
Most of the people I meet began their research of conspiracy theories beginning with the Illuminati and / or the affiliated organizations (Bildebergers, Club of Rome, Trilateral Commission, Council on Foreign Relations, etc., etc. , etc.) Chasing them all down becomes a full time preoccupation that takes one down a lot of rabbit holes. This thread is not to confuse people or alarm them. It is to explain it. Let's look at this logically: The Illuminati began in May of 1776 Council on Foreign Relations incorporated in 1921 The Bildebergers began in 1954 Club of Rome began in 1968 Trilateral Commission began in 1973 When the Illuminati began there was no country called the United States of America. According to Wikipedia: "... Bavarian Illuminati, an Enlightenment-era secret society founded on 1 May 1776 in Bavaria, today part of Germany. The society's goals were to oppose superstition, obscurantism, religious influence over public life and abuses of state power. "The order of the day," they wrote in their general statutes, "is to put an end to the machinations of the purveyors of injustice, to control them without dominating them."[1] The Illuminati—along with Freemasonry and other secret societies—were outlawed through edict by Charles Theodore, Elector of Bavaria, with the encouragement of the Catholic Church, in 1784, 1785, 1787 and 1790.[2] During subsequent years, the group was generally vilified by conservative and religious critics who claimed that the Illuminati continued underground and were responsible for the French Revolution." (emphasis mine) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IlluminatiSo, the Illuminati was not formed to specifically wage war against the United States, but it was created to wage war against religion and to control religion. THAT is why it is important to go back to the genesis, the beginning, of the fight between good and evil to fully understand and appreciate what this is all about. In the book of Genesis we find that God created a perpetual war between the seed of the woman and the seed of the serpent (see Genesis chapter 3.) You may have heard about the story of Eve eating an apple, talking to a snake, etc., but that is NOT what happened. It's a longer story and we can cover it elsewhere, but for Christians the war between good and evil; right and wrong begins at that point. You may have read about the battle between David and Goliath (I Samuel chapter 17) and learned the lesson of how the smaller force of good overcomes evil. It all culminates in the Book of Revelation with the battle against the anti-Christ. From a Christian perspective, that is why they perceive the conspiracy to keep us in the NEW WORLD ORDER to be evil. America was founded as a Christian nation. It was not founded as a theocracy, but as a constitutional Republic based upon the biblical laws of right and wrong; good and bad; legal and illegal. THAT is what the NEW WORLD ORDER ultimately is fighting against. BEFORE moving to my next post, I will leave you with a link to the thread about America being a Christian nation. If you read the threads (and access the internal links), you will know what fuels the fight against Liberty and Freedom: resisters.freeforums.net/thread/165/america-founded-on-christian-principlesresisters.freeforums.net/thread/119/america More later...
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Post by The Resister on Jan 3, 2023 20:30:03 GMT
Happy New Year!If you've read this far you are probably wondering when we are going to get down to some meat and potatoes of the conspiracy view of history. I realize that the history part of anything is boring to most people, but it helps us understand what is really going on. The Illuminati was created in 1776 with the express purpose of infiltrating the Freemasons and pushing an agenda antithetical to religion. Consequently, Freemasonry was waging a war against America from the onset. The founders and framers created a constitutional Republic based upon Christian principles.Those who promote the NEW WORLD ORDER will tell you that it was Freemasonry, not Christianity, that influenced the founding of this country and its Constitution. It is there that we must begin our journey. There are two very important things that pro NEW WORLD ORDER advocates won't tell you about this debate: 1) MOST of the founders and framers were NOT Freemasons 2) Even when you do have evil people trying to influence things, God is always using bad people to achieve a righteous result. Any Bible students here ever heard of Barabbas? And what about Saul? Saul was a tax collector and God changed his name to Paul. The hand of God can and does use evil people to achieve a righteous result Before we start exposing the Illuminati and their plans for world conquest and the building of a NEW WORLD ORDER that denies Christ, we need to look at who was NOT a Freemason. Of the 56 men who signed the Declaration of Independence only nine were Masons: freemasoninformation.com/masonic-education/famous/united-states-masonic-founding-fathers/Only nine signers of the Constitution were Masons. Some Freemasons claim that 70 percent of the signers of the Constitution were Masons and the include suspected members without proof and people that joined Freemasonry AFTER the ratification of the Constitution. Rather than nitpick every one of them (though we can) let us use a typical site that tries to do exactly what I just said: www.themasonictrowel.com/masonic_facts/did_you_know/dyk_40.htmNote that author claims Thomas Jefferson was a Mason. That is a LIE. According to Wikipedia: "... there is speculation suggesting that Thomas Jefferson was a Freemason; however, there is no record of him being initiated into any lodge, nor are there any references to Masonic membership in his personal papers." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_presidents_of_the_United_States_who_were_FreemasonsWithout nitpicking about those who were not Masons and it is disputed, what about those who definitely were NOT Masons? Do you think they were stupid and didn't influence any part of the founding of America? That is question I will leave you with until I come back and we start looking at what the conspiracy is all about.
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Post by The Resister on Jan 6, 2023 4:57:21 GMT
After a half a dozen posts I haven't been able to whet the appetite of anyone save of noclevername. So, we can wrap this up unless anyone has something else they want to know about the conspiracy view of history. The Illuminati was founded in 1776 by Adam Weishaupt He was a Jesuit / Jewish Lionel George Curtis founded the Council on Foreign Relations. An encyclopedia article had this to say about him: " Curtis's grand idea of empire federalism was rejected by the 1921 imperial conference. Taking up a research fellowship at All Souls College, Oxford, in 1924, he continued to elaborate his ideas on commonwealth and world unity in countless books and polemical pamphlets, most notably the three-volume Civitas Dei (1934–7). He pronounced in messianic terms and turgid prose the unique destiny of the multi-nation, multi-race British commonwealth – the very manifestation of the city of God upon earth – to federate its autonomous units, and thus serve as a sublime model for an international future of ever-expanding federations eventually to coalesce into a single world commonwealth." www.dib.ie/index.php/biography/curtis-lionel-george-a2333Curtis was also an atheist. David Rockefeller co founded the Bildebergers and also served on the Council on Foreign Relations. Rockefeller had some policy differences with the Bildebergers and started the Trilateral Commission. He even admitted that he was a NEW WORLD ORDER internationalist: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_RockefellerThe widely discredited Club of Rome got mired down in controversy over the 1972 report " Limits to Growth" that basically neutered the Club of Rome as influential (though they remain marginally so.) There are your players and the things that make them tick. They are atheists, humanists, internationalists and men who envision a one world / one race / one religion world that is subject to the international elite. Those are indisputable facts that you can find outside of political propaganda rhetoric. Those are the facts. If you check the Wikipedia link, you will find that those IN the conspiracy don't deny it. From a practical point of view, the best explanation that can be given for Americans rejecting the NEW WORLD ORDER lies in understanding our Christian heritage and our Christian nation PLUS knowing where the battle between this " good and evil" originated according to the opposition that arose against the Masons and then internationalists. Let's be objective for a minute: The internationalists wanted a God free nation ( separation of church and state), a ONE WORLD RELIGION, one race society and the almighty STATE to lord over you from the womb to the tomb. Modern American society eschews religion and the Christians are now the numerical minority in America. Of those that are left, they MUST be wholly committed to a one race society - and God help the heretic that is white that utters the words that even here we are not permitted to use. Of course, if I were black and doing the rap thing on the radio there would be no problem with it. Even the so - called "conservatives" fell into line with the 24 / 7 / 365 womb to the tomb monitoring going on with the Surveillance State. Most of the objectives of the NEW WORLD ORDER, the utopia dreamed up by the internationalists, has almost come to fruition. If there is any further interest then post. If not thank you for your time and consideration.
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Post by noclevername on Jan 6, 2023 18:49:06 GMT
Did you know that Masons are not allowed to discuss religion in the lodges? Do you think that plays an important part in any of this discussion? There must be some kind of explanation.
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Post by The Resister on Jan 7, 2023 4:51:32 GMT
Did you know that Masons are not allowed to discuss religion in the lodges? Do you think that plays an important part in any of this discussion? There must be some kind of explanation. There IS an explanation. Thanks for asking: "12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High." Isaiah 14: 12 through 14 In order for the Luciferian conspiracy to work there cannot be competing gods. There has to be a universal ONE WORLD / ONE RACE / ONE god religion that encompasses all religions and denominations and puts all the various gods and non-entities on the same level. The Masons themselves admit that they believe in this concept though denying it with their every breath. " Masons also consider themselves to be more religious than other fraternal organizations because they view themselves as belonging to one religion: Freemasonry. In fact, Masonry teaches its members not to be involved in religious activities at all. Masons do not believe in the concept of a singular god but rather focus on God as part of a belief system. Masons believe in a Supreme Being known as the Great Architect of the Universe."freemasonscommunity.life/what-do-freemasons-believe/#:~:text=While%20there%20are%20many%20common%20threads%20in%20the,God%20created%20mankind%20and%20everything%20in%20the%20universe. What a word salad! Yeah, in your private life Masons claim that you can believe in any God you like. Once in the fraternal order, you are a part of the religion of Freemasonry. No wonder they have to use so much disinformation, double talk, intellectual dishonesty, misdirection, and outright lies. Since shortly after its beginnings former Masons have been exposing the Illuminati and the evil behind it. The first of those books was Proofs of a Conspiracy by John Robison, A.M. back in 1798. There is a lot of information about the topic since then. See this as well: freemasonrywatch.org/john.ankerberg.masonicritual.html
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Post by noclevername on Jan 11, 2023 3:40:50 GMT
Marjorie Taylor Greene and Donald Trump opened up my eyes to how a lot of this conspiracy theory stuff works. Donald Trump endorses the RINO Kevin McCarthy. Marjorie Taylor Greene throws the MAGA people under the bus and endorses McCarthy and now tries to distance herself from the people that believe in the conspiracy view of history. newrepublic.com/post/169886/marjorie-taylor-greene-says-qanon-days-overTrump filled the right up with people who believe in all kinds of conspiracies. After he's elected and loses his second election he uses his stooges to bring his supporters back into mainstream where they can now disparage the entire concept of a conspiracy. The advertised solutions for Trump's election woes are causing the effort to get rid of the electoral college to gain steam. Gun rights people are doubling down on Trump's viability as a candidate for president so they are accepting gun control. Many of the ridiculous conspiracies such as 2021 California wildfires were caused by space lasers owned by Jewish people discredited any talk of the real conspiracy. This was mind control warfare at its best. Trump and Greene can now disavow any belief in such left wing garbage. They took down the constitutionalists and what was left of the Christian right. The only credibility they have going forward is to latch onto moderates and go for the ride. Yes, yes it makes sense now. A Wikipedia article came to mind after reading this topic in light of this weeks news. Big Lie "The German expression was coined by Adolf Hitler, when he dictated his book Mein Kampf (1925), to describe the use of a lie so colossal that no one would believe that someone "could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously." Hitler claimed that the technique had been used by Jews to blame Germany's loss in World War I on German general Erich Ludendorff, who was a prominent nationalist political leader in the Weimar Republic." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_lieTrump is using the same technique and quite effectively.
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