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Post by The Resister on Jun 4, 2023 15:39:45 GMT
Very interesting, as a History Major I find what you are saying True regarding the 14th Amendment and The War Against Northern Aggression. The Elites have manipulated the Truth so many people do not even know much of it anymore. I care and I hope everyone cares. What is the bearer of bad news? I still hope that you will take away from that last post the concept of an unalienable Right. Before you can understand what is REALLY going with respect to immigration, you have to have the correct facts. I’d like to continue on a bit so that you begin to understand. SOME people (in the founding era) believed that Blacks were a lower order than the White race. MANY believed that Whites were the Israelites of the Bible, America was the New Jerusalem and that the Whites were to serve as an example for the rest of the world. If there are any statistics regarding how many believed either way, I’ve never found them. The first immigration law limited citizenship to “ free white persons;” however, despite that fact people came here from all over the world to partake of the opportunities willingly offered. So, while non-Whites were denied the privileges of citizenship, they had unalienable Rights and could seek out financial gain – even live among the Whites and have a good life. WHEN the Constitution was ratified, it was for the preservation, protection and advancement of White Christians. The Preamble to the Constitution reads: “We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.” (emphasis mine, of course) Our Constitution became the equivalent of a contract between we, the people and that entity called government. This is well documented in the case of Dred Scott v. Sanford. If you have never read this case, you will NEVER have a full understanding of what is going on in America. Read this link: www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/60/393The illegal ratification of the Fourteenth Amendment made Dred Scott v. Sanford moot and irrelevant in American law, but a lot of non-Whites realize that the Fourteenth Amendment was illegally ratified and that the Constitution was intended to create a homeland for White Christians. That fact is at the core of the anti-White hatred in this country and when I return, we will talk about another aspect of this before arriving at your ultimate answer.
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Post by The Resister on Jun 6, 2023 14:37:55 GMT
I've been extremely busy this week and I know that lee is in the process of moving so I'm taking my time on this. Hope those following are being patient and accessing the links. Let's continue:
I took a minor detour from immigration to discuss race relations in my previous post, but it's all relevant. Once one understands that the Constitution was written for the advancement, preservation, and protection of the White race / Christians will you begin to fathom the ramifications of that relative to immigration. PRIOR to the civil rights era and the misapplication of the illegally ratified Fourteenth Amendment, we functioned much better even with our borders being wide open. Therein is the deeper issue.
The MAGA crowd and the Trump supporters want to militarize the border; they are in favor of the National ID / REAL ID Act - E Verify system; they want to empower the ultimate POLICE STATE. That is the whole problem with their thinking process. The very things that make America free are the things that people like Donald Trump want to destroy. Additionally, BEFORE the Republicans wanted the POLICE STATE and that build the wall mentality, it was a left wing / Democrat talking point:
Let's make some points perfectly clear on this. Every person has an unalienable Right to Liberty and a presumption of innocence under our Constitution, as originally written and intended. Citizenship and the privilege of voting - becoming a part of the body politic is a privilege. We do not have to automatically extend a privilege to anyone. It is here that I strongly feel the average American has lost their way. It used to be that Americans could pick who they wanted to hire for a job; they could decide who they wanted to sell to and buy from; they had control over who they rented to. Then, the civil rights era began taking away our fundamental Liberty. Business owners were forced to hire people without any discrimination that may further the stated goals in the Preamble of the Constitution. Private property owners were forced to rent to people they didn't want to rent to. Every day we are being forced to do business with people we may not want to do business with. The government wants a multicultural society... sooo.... the great compromise is to pretend that we are extending the blessings of Liberty only to those that are subjects of the NEW WORLD ORDER that were born here or have "papers" from a corrupt government and said papers include the Socialist Surveillance Number - ooops... "Social Security Number" and are U.S. government approved. Bull freaking crap folks.
PRIOR to 9/ 11 the Patriot Movement (for lack of a more descriptive adjective) had this issue well under control. Private property at the border was being watched over by private parties and civilian militias at the property owners behest. The government controlled government property. But, before the civil rights era there was even more control over the situation because we had a greater degree of self governing going on. I'll come back later and explain.
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Post by The Resister on Jun 7, 2023 22:44:03 GMT
With lee moving, I can understand why he isn't posting on the board yet. For the other 175 + people that accessed this thread, I'm kind of in the dark as to why they don't have any input. But, let's continue:
The whole thing of "secure the border" and my favorite "illegal" immigration makes me want to pull my hair out by the roots. If you're going to lobby for or against an issue, make sure you have the FACTS. The facts are that the border is quite secure AND the term "illegal" immigration is a non-sequitir. In other words that term is a logical fallacy. The term immigration, if you look it up in a Black's Law Dictionary (the most authoritative legal dictionary used in our courts), it means:
"The coming Into a country of foreigners for purposes of permanent residence." (Emphasis mine, of course)
Now, here is what is wrong with the secure the borders mantra. Most of the people coming into the United States do NOT want to come here for purposes of permanent residency. And, quite frankly, we don't need any more citizens. If you force all the so - called "illegals" to become citizens, they will ultimately outnumber you and vote you into oblivion. Few of you reading this will understand the sh!+storms I've been in for telling the wrong wing, I mean the right wing, that simple truth. Yet they persist in calling people "illegal" aliens / immigrants (absent due process); they demand that people come via some legal process - which is code for citizenship (whether the secure the border types know it or not or admit it or not.) What I'm saying is that the people coming here are NOT "illegal" immigrants / aliens since they do not want to become citizens and we don't need any more citizens.
By contrast, the Declaration of Independence, written before we ever had a United States C(c)itizen, presupposes that all men have an unalienable Right to Liberty. Since there were no citizens at that time, those God given Rights were not limited to just citizens. Liberty is God given and citizenship is a privilege granted by the government. If you confuse the two and keep repeating the mantra about people being "illegal" or they should follow some legal path to be here, be careful what you wish for. If they don't legally take over per your request in the next presidential election, then they WILL own America in the 2028 cycle. If you repeat your enemy's vocabulary, they will eventually own you.
Our courts have ruled that once a person sets foot on U.S. soil, they have at least some rights pursuant to the illegally ratified Fourteenth Amendment. I just opened up yet another can of worms, so it will be dealt with in my next post. BEFORE the illegally ratified Fourteenth Amendment, you saw that the Constitution did not necessarily apply to the Blacks, but we still extended Rights to slaves and to others who were working here, but could never become citizens. This is a touchy subject and it is only on this board that we can explore the fact that the Constitution (which was to secure the blessings of Liberty to "ourselves and our Posterity)" could become an integral part of this discussion. Stopping the flow of the third world into America means that you have to FULLY understand the issue.
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Post by The Resister on Jun 8, 2023 3:32:13 GMT
We have repeated the most important part of this subject and now we move forward to the illegally ratified Fourteenth Amendment. It provides: " All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws." (Emphasis mine) A person born in the United States or naturalized is a citizen and is due unspecified privileges and immunities. All persons (as differentiated from a citizen) have the 14th Amendment grants of "life, liberty, property, due process of law AND the equal protection of the laws. Like it or not; accept it or not, that is the law. Getting mad at me won't change it. You can't change it with legislation and you can't change it by voting for Donald J. Trump. If you took basic civics in school, when the United States Supreme Court interprets the Constitution, that IS the law unless they reverse themselves OR you get an amendment to the Constitution... or maybe have the Fourteenth Amendment declared null and void by the United States Supreme Court. If you want to stem the tide, you must have the facts. Undocumented foreigners have constitutional " rights" and here is a link to explain it to you: www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/what-constitutional-rights-do-undocumented-immigrants-haveCaveat: Even the most well intentioned get some things wrong and this article got a couple of things wrong. I make mention of it because the next time I post, it will be explained in detail to you, but for most of our discussion the article is somewhat accurate. Once we understand the parameters, we can figure out what our options really are. What our options are NOT, however, is ANYTHING that relies on the illegally ratified Fourteenth Amendment to make our case with. The illegally ratified Fourteenth Amendment, having created two classes of citizenship: Preamble Citizens and Fourteenth Amendment citizens must NOT be relied on IF you ever want to claim your unalienable Rights. And if you believe that the government grants you your " rights," then you damn well can't argue them in court. The government giveth and the government taketh away.
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Post by The Resister on Jun 8, 2023 22:28:39 GMT
NOTICE
I have been beaten, lied to, lied about, chastised, castigated, "excommunicated" from the militia, banned from every discussion board and social media site save of this one, and been kicked to the curb by what was once the "Patriot Movement" due to the things I'm about to say in my next post. Meanwhile, during the past two and half decades, the flooding of America by the third world has gotten progressively worse with the right unwittingly buying into the B.S. that was dreamed up by the globalists and the far left. While their promises of controlling immigration are pleasing to the ears it is absolute cow dung of the bull variety.
A wise gambler pretty much knows or has at least an inkling as to what the other guy is holding before betting. When it comes to the immigration debacle, the right is deaf, dumb, blind, and stupid. They don't know what the left has and how they are playing the game. Consequently the secure the border types continue to walk into land mines, lose in court and watch their best laid plans end in defeat or retreat. The bottom line is that in the 1990s and the years preceding that, we had the immigration issue under control. We were winning. Today the right is losing. The next posting will probably be the longest on this thread. If you're not serious about understanding the subject, skip the next post. Thank you for understanding.
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Post by The Resister on Jun 9, 2023 3:21:04 GMT
The current mantra of the right is that they claim that they don't care if the foreigners come here; they just insist that they come here via some "legal process." It's time we challenged that and done some serious explaining: Liberty is an unalienable Right and not subject to the whims of the voters. If a foreigner wants to pursue opportunities willingly offered, they should be free to take advantage of opportunities willingly offered. The only legal path the right understands is the one that ends with the foreigner becoming a citizen. And, as stated, if you FORCE people to become citizens, they will repay you by voting you into oblivion. Calling people " illegal immigrants / aliens" only serves to alienate them AND jeopardize your legal Rights. Let's take this apart and study it in its component parts. The big deal in current times is to rail against illegal immigration. It is damn near an impossibility for someone to illegally seek permanent residence in this country. The bigger picture ought to be that you should not want the third world to become citizens. For example, a study was done four years ago. It was determined that in the 116th Congress over 13 percent of the federal legislators were immigrants or children of recent immigrants. According to the article: " There are 52 immigrants and children of immigrants serving in the House of Representatives and 16 serving in the Senate. Counting both chambers, 57 of the 68 lawmakers who are immigrants or children of immigrants are Democrats. Ten others are Republicans, and one – Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont – is an independent." www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2019/01/24/in-116th-congress-at-least-13-of-lawmakers-are-immigrants-or-the-children-of-immigrants/Let me repeat this to you: We do not need any more citizens. I hope you understand that. Now we will get controversial. The right then demands that we do that " legal process" and they call foreigners criminals and illegal aliens absent due process. So, what do I mean by that? The right is calling people illegal aliens before those individuals have ever been tried for any such nonexistent crime. The illegally ratified Fourteenth Amendment guarantees us the equal protection of the laws. It applies to all persons regardless of immigration status. Therefore, if THEY do not have a presumption of innocence (innocent until PROVEN guilty in a court of law) NEITHER DO YOU. Personally, I've seen it all too often that patriots are called enemy combatants, terrorists, homegrown terrorists, seditionists, insurrectionists, etc. and railroaded through the system. Yet it was THEIR very mindset that helped create the precedent that was used to send patriots to prison. Let me jump in and say it and explain it to you: THERE IS NO SUCH CRIME AS ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION.EVERY time I have ever posted that I am the one who cites the law (since others don't know where to look for it.) Then comes the sh!+storm and EVERYBODY suddenly knows more than I do. The trouble is, I spent six years working in immigration law. Today I'm going to cite the law and explain it to you so we can have a rational discussion about what really needs to be done. Now, let me cite the law that the right erroneously wants enforced. 8 U.S. Code § 1325 - Improper entry by alien (a)Improper time or place; avoidance of examination or inspection; misrepresentation and concealment of facts Any alien who (1) enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers, or (2) eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers, or (3) attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact, shall, for the first commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than 6 months, or both, and, for a subsequent commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18, or imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both.
(b)Improper time or place; civil penalties Any alien who is apprehended while entering (or attempting to enter) the United States at a time or place other than as designated by immigration officers shall be subject to a civil penalty of— (1)at least $50 and not more than $250 for each such entry (or attempted entry); or (2)twice the amount specified in paragraph (1) in the case of an alien who has been previously subject to a civil penalty under this subsection. Civil penalties under this subsection are in addition to, and not in lieu of, any criminal or other civil penalties that may be imposed. (c)Marriage fraud Any individual who knowingly enters into a marriage for the purpose of evading any provision of the immigration laws shall be imprisoned for not more than 5 years, or fined not more than $250,000, or both.
(d)Immigration-related entrepreneurship fraud Any individual who knowingly establishes a commercial enterprise for the purpose of evading any provision of the immigration laws shall be imprisoned for not more than 5 years, fined in accordance with title 18, or both.Here are the top TEN reasons that coming into the U.S. is not a crime: 1) The law, though poorly written is in a civil section of the United States Code. It is in Title 8 which concerns itself with Immigration and Naturalization. The Criminal Code is Title 18 of the United States Code 2) When the above cited statute refers to a crime, it mentions Title 18. Why? A civil code cannot impose a criminal penalty 3) Title 8 USC 1325 has a heading. It is about IMPROPER Entry, not illegal immigration, not unlawful immigration, not illegal entry or even unlawful entry 4) To make sure you understand I'm not blowing smoke, Congress tried to change the law in 2005 with H.R. 4437. That bill failed. Among its provisions is that it would make presence in the U.S. a crime AND imposes a criminal penalty for those who illegally enter the United States pursuant to that legislation. So, here is the million dollar question: Why would Congress need to change the law making presence without papers a crime and imposing criminal penalties for those convicted of this new crime if it's already a crime? The truth? It is NOT a crime to enter the United States without papers. Stay with me. This is very important. Here is a link to H.R. 4437 (back in 2005): www.congress.gov/bill/109th-congress/house-bill/4437Sorry that I have to break this up into two separate posts due to the rules of keeping the postings to reasonable maxiums.
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Post by The Resister on Jun 9, 2023 4:12:50 GMT
THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF REPLY # 20 ABOVE5) Rudy Giuliani was a former federal U.S. Attorney that was tasked with pursuing immigration cases. He was / is a Donald J. Trump supporter. I want you to pay attention to what he said: 6) Here is a U.S. Attorney and Trump lackey explaining that there is no crime of illegal immigration. Here is the REAL REASON you have to understand this. In the first place, if you tried to prosecute 10 million foreigners for the alleged crime of illegal immigration, each of them would be able to retain an attorney at U.S. taxpayers expense (again pursuant to the illegally ratified Fourteenth Amendment) and such an effort would financially collapse the federal government. The second part is, if we call civil violations a " crime," then all civil violations would be criminal acts. If they denied you a job, credit, a house / apartment, driver's license, weapon license, etc. because you were convicted of an improper U Turn, you'd suddenly figure it out. Civil violations are not crimes. Attorney General Michael Mukasey (who served as George W. Bush's Attorney General) said on August 12, 2008, before the American Bar Association annual meeting delegates that "not every wrong, or even every violation of the law, is a crime..." For that reason I cannot and will not be silent while the dumb asses that obsess over immigration to destroy MY Liberty. If you disagree, maybe you will enjoy getting the same treatment the Trump supporters got off of that Jan. 6 rally at the capitol 7) The important part of what most people miss relative to 8 USC 1325 is that the criminal penalties are imposed for violations of criminal statutes RELATED to the improper entry. For example, if Hosea is not caught at the border, coming in he can be deported for improper entry since he lacks papers. IF, OTOH, Hosea runs from the authorities, he will be charged with a crime related to eluding police. That IS a crime. IF Hosea lies to the authorities, makes fraudulent statements, or maybe conceals information he will be charged until Title 18 USC 1000 which is a crime. All of that is anticipated in the improper entry statute and THAT, not the improper entry is what criminal penalties are for. Improper Entry is not in Title 18 8) A.G. Michael Mukasey, as the nation's highest immigration official at the time, ruled that: " the US constitution affords a right to counsel, and hence a right to effective counsel, only in criminal matters. Immigration proceedings are civil matters, he wrote, and therefore that right does not apply." www.theguardian.com/world/2009/jan/09/immigration-rights-us-michael-mukasey9) If coming into the United States requires some kind of special permission, then we would have NO concept of Liberty. For that reason, the right got conned into supporting the so - called " Patriot Act,"
, the National ID / REAL ID Act - E Verify; the end of due process and the principle of innocent until proven guilty; the imposition of the POLICE STATE and Jack Booted Thugs keeping the sheeple under surveillance from the womb to the tomb 24 / 7 / 365 10) The right makes a silly and pretentious argument that the illegally ratified Fourteenth Amendment was / is being misinterpreted so as to create " anchor babies" as the pejorative goes (as the parents of an American born baby are still subject to deportation if their papers are not in order.) That brings us back to my strongest argument. If you're arguing your rights on the basis of the illegally ratified Fourteenth Amendment, then you have NO rights and damn well NO unalienable Rights to be protected. You simply bend over and do what that government - god demands of its loyal subjects. That is just my top ten arguments against pursuing the foreigners as so - called " illegal immigrants / aliens" Calling them names is not going to make your lot in life better NOR is building a wall around the United States with the Constitution Free Zone being used to deny to the majority of Americans their unalienable Rights and subject us to warrant less search and seizures. BEFORE you give up your Rights, maybe you may want to think about this as a Cost / Benefits analysis. What would this massive deportation cost you and what is the cost to maintain a wall? How many Liberties do you lose? Better still, what are the alternatives? We could resolve this issue by applying some common sense and being honest with ourselves.
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Post by noclevername on Jun 9, 2023 12:58:22 GMT
This is coming from a first hand source. All this information has been posted on boards for the last twenty some odd years. Every time it was posted it was attacked and Resister was banned or in some way not allowed to pursue this. We do need some elaboration. That law very definitely says things about criminal penalties. Can you elaborate? Just a word to Resister as a person. If people had paid attention years ago a lot of them would not have ended up in prison.
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Post by The Resister on Jun 9, 2023 19:42:36 GMT
This is coming from a first hand source. All this information has been posted on boards for the last twenty some odd years. Every time it was posted it was attacked and Resister was banned or in some way not allowed to pursue this. We do need some elaboration. That law very definitely says things about criminal penalties. Can you elaborate? Just a word to Resister as a person. If people had paid attention years ago a lot of them would not have ended up in prison. It is unfortunate, but many people access the law and fail to understand it. Let me dissect it in English so you have the right info: 8 U.S. Code § 1325 - Improper entry by alien(a)Improper time or place; avoidance of examination or inspection; misrepresentation and concealment of facts Any alien who (1) enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers, or (2) eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers, or (3) attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact, shall, for the first commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than 6 months, or both, and, for a subsequent commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18, or imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both.
(b)Improper time or place; civil penalties Any alien who is apprehended while entering (or attempting to enter) the United States at a time or place other than as designated by immigration officers shall be subject to a civil penalty of— (1)at least $50 and not more than $250 for each such entry (or attempted entry); or (2)twice the amount specified in paragraph (1) in the case of an alien who has been previously subject to a civil penalty under this subsection. Civil penalties under this subsection are in addition to, and not in lieu of, any criminal or other civil penalties that may be imposed. (c)Marriage fraud Any individual who knowingly enters into a marriage for the purpose of evading any provision of the immigration laws shall be imprisoned for not more than 5 years, or fined not more than $250,000, or both.The first part of this statute has three sections broken down into parts called Sections A, B, and C. In the first paragraph, the law defines " improper time or place; avoidance of examination or inspection; misrepresentation and concealment of facts" and it is stressed that the violator will be fined under Title 18... but, what are they being fined and imprisoned for? That answer is in Title 18 and improper entry is NOT a Title 18 crime! Giving false and misleading statements and willful concealment of material facts along with eluding the authorities ARE Title 18 crimes. Merely entering the country will net a violator a fine of $50 to $250. The balance of that paragraph in Title 8 applies to crimes related to the improper entry. Therefore if a foreigner comes into the U.S. and does not cross paths with the Border Patrol, once in, they are subject only to the civil violation of improper entry. Once in, the equal protections of the law apply and if you don't have probable cause, you can't just stop people and force them to prove who they are and their papers are in order, etc., etc. My dog in the fight here is a simple one: Every Liberty you deny the foreigners is a Liberty you deny to yourself. The rub here is that the right wing hides behind the illegally ratified Fourteenth Amendment when it is the primary cause of their problems when it comes to the immigration debacle. That being said, in my next post we can begin looking at our options.
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Post by The Resister on Jun 12, 2023 4:02:37 GMT
It is a damn shame that more people did not have to take high school civics. Because of their stupidity, many have gone to prison and some have been killed due to outright ignorance. But, I'm mad at their stupidity. If you don't know, you should be ready, willing, and able to ASK QUESTIONS. BEFORE I launch into the top ten things that have to be done relative to addressing the immigration debacle, I want to give you just ONE solid reason that you should rethink your attitude if you are a secure the borders type: I have preached for YEARS that you really do not want the government to pursue so called " illegal immigrants / aliens" over an improper entry. Why? Whether you accept facts or not, not all violations of the law are crimes. Yet an Attorney General had to school members of the liberal American Bar Association over that point. IF civil violations of the law are to be treated as crimes, then YOU are supporting the precedent that small petty acts that you engage in every day could cost you millions. Here is just one simple example. Generally speaking many violations like speeding, improper U Turns, or illegal parking are civil violations of the law. Let me cut through the B.S. for you: Currently, if you have a criminal record, employers will deny you a job, you can be denied credit, and you can't get a bank account or a place to live. So, you pursue the foreigners and set the precedent that YOUR past civil violations will be treated like crimes. Then all your petty offenses are put into your criminal record and YOU become a second class citizen overnight. Impossible? Most new cars will have a tattle tell box in them. Your insurance agent or the LEO community can access that info and determine every time you violated the law. You could become a criminal and the tax man would love to oblige you since their job is to raise revenue. Don't cut off your nose to spite your face. Learn what is meant by the equal protection of the law.1) In our top ten things you need to do to fight back, we start with the hardest to understand AND the most difficult. As stated, the illegally ratified Fourteenth Amendment created two classes of citizens: Preamble and Fourteenth Amendment citizens. Preamble Citizens have unalienable Rights; Fourteenth Amendment citizens do not. That should be your greatest takeaway. Most of the people writing about this subject either don't understand it OR they are double agents for Uncle Scam that misrepresent the subject so as to make it easy to demagogue and possibly land you in prison. A misunderstanding of it is a deliberate political warfare ploy aimed at confusing you. IF you have questions or want to pursue it, THIS is the best site as I have over four decades of actually studying the issue. It was taught to me directly from the man who pioneered the research. Here is the first thing you need to know about the two classes of citizens: freedom-school.com/citizenship/two-united-states-and-the-law.htmlCaveat: Anything on the site other than Howard Freeman's article is not endorsed by Resisters. Inquire before relying on other information When I return, we can begin with # 2 of the top ten things you can do that will change the bottom line. Also request from us The Resisters Manual and it goes a bit more in depth on how this applies to you as an individual
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Post by The Resister on Jun 14, 2023 2:38:52 GMT
Top Ten Ways to Fight Back (continued from previous post)
If this posting doesn't piss you off, then you aren't reading this thread. The major thing that the secure the border types need to do is to articulate WHY they are involved in this topic to begin with. Allow me to explain this:
What I hear from the secure the border people is that they don't mind if people come here, provided they do it legally (as they characterize it.) As pointed out that is code for becoming a citizen. The only other way to come here is through a visa. Currently, when it comes to work visas, we only allow 65,000 visas, and an additional 20,000 set aside for those graduating with master’s degrees or higher from a U.S. college or university. Contrast that to the nearly 1 million people that will be naturalized each year as citizens. Forgive me, but it doesn't compute. In Reply # 20 we got to see how our government is shifting left in the legislative arena by foreigners that come here only to become radical leftists holding office as Democrats. What, exactly, is this "legal" mumbo jumbo when the left ends up winning anyway? What is the real objective?
The left played the right like a well tuned violin after 9 / 11. BEFORE 9 / 11 American patriots were opposed to the income tax, national ID, and the POLICE STATE. AFTER 9 / 11 the Democrats were able to abandon the POLICE STATE, the fight for National ID, and their overt opposition to the Constitution of the United States (as originally written and intended.) The Republicans and later MAGA Republicans took up up those Democrat / left positions and made them their own. Tea Party Republicans introduced the so called "Patriot Act," the National ID / REAL ID Act - E Verify and are waging a war against due process at the current time. So, what problem is being addressed with this "illegal immigrant / alien" narrative?
You want to build a wall around the United States because foreigners supposedly don't pay federal income taxes? Is THAT your argument? Don't you care that the income tax is illegal, unconstitutional, immoral, indefensible, unconscionable and has nothing to do with paying any federal debt? You didn't know that? That's going to be a whole new discussion. But, today, we have allowed the globalists working through the Democrats and Tea Party / MAGA Republicans to give us the ultimate POLICE STATE backed up by National ID based on your Socialist Surveillance Number - I mean your "Social Security Number" and make it possible for them to have you under surveillance from the womb to the tomb 24 / 7 / 365. I ask again, what is your opposition to foreigners coming into the United States? Are you willing to give it up provided that they do so "legally as you characterize it?"
I've been at this for more than TWO decades... you know, debating the secure the border crowd. They seem comfortable with the foreigners that come here, establish residency, become registered tax slaves with the Socialist Security Administration, and profess their membership in the NEW WORLD ORDER. They register to vote and remind us with each passing election cycle that the old guard - American patriots that revere the Constitution are on their way out. And it's the secure the border type that believes in this B.S. !!! If I'm describing you, then tell me what you're hoping to accomplish. Please.
Now, let me tell my you MY view. I got sick and tired of the Tea Party / MAGA B.S. artists locking me out of discussion boards and social media sites, claiming I was an open borders liberal. If one of them had said that to my face, they would be eating their teeth. They are in love with whatever in the Hell political propaganda prostitutes tell them, so let me state the facts for you. I support the Constitution as it was originally written and intended. My critics will point out that means that only Whites could become citizens. Okay. Yes. That is true. But those people criticizing me don't have any problem with supporting China with their wallets. There are more Chinese in China than there are White people on the face of the earth. China is 98 + percent Han Chinese. It is a homogeneous country. Japan claims to be the most racially pure country on earth. They are 98 percent Japanese. The same is true of the Koreans. Blacks ran the Whites out of Rhodesia and renamed it Zimbabwe. It is 99.7 percent Black. So, if anybody thinks I'm going to apologize for wanting a homeland for Whites, they are out of their damn mind. Somebody's culture, somebody's values, somebody's language is going to be the dominant one in EVERY country. America started out with a common race, a common religion, common values, and we became the greatest nation in the annals of history. There is no reason to change it. For that reason, I am NOT for forcing people to become Americans and I'm not for changing the cultural makeup of what our country was intended to be.
In the utopia of the MAGA and Tea Party cults, foreigners would become citizens and be able to displace the Posterity of the Constitution. In MY America, the foreigners could come here, work, earn money, and go home. They would have unalienable Rights, but they would NOT have the benefits and privileges of citizenship. In MY America, they could not vote, receive welfare, and their children wouldn't get a public education at taxpayer expense.
Make no mistake. The Republicans are THE party of the multiculturalist and negrophilist. Republicans are the primary party of the globalists (Democrats are communist wannabes.) The Republicans gave you the illegally ratified Fourteenth Amendment that nullified the Bill of Rights and unalienable Rights. The Republicans gave us the income tax, the so - called "Patriot Act," the National ID / REAL ID Act - E Verify and the ultimate POLICE STATE. We have been supporting the Republicans and now the MAGA Republicans as the lesser of two evils. We're losing either way, but what the globalists are doing relative to destroying America by flooding it with foreigners is a war of genocide against Whites.
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Post by The Resister on Jun 14, 2023 2:39:03 GMT
Top Ten Ways to Fight Back (continued from previous post)
2) If this posting doesn't piss you off, then you aren't reading this thread. The major thing that the secure the border types need to do is to articulate WHY they are involved in this topic to begin with. Allow me to explain this:
What I hear from the secure the border people is that they don't mind if people come here, provided they do it legally (as they characterize it.) As pointed out that is code for becoming a citizen. The only other way to come here is through a visa. Currently, when it comes to work visas, we only allow 65,000 visas, and an additional 20,000 set aside for those graduating with master’s degrees or higher from a U.S. college or university. Contrast that to the nearly 1 million people that will be naturalized each year as citizens. Forgive me, but it doesn't compute. In Reply # 20 we got to see how our government is shifting left in the legislative arena by foreigners that come here only to become radical leftists holding office as Democrats. What, exactly, is this "legal" mumbo jumbo when the left ends up winning anyway? What is the real objective?
The left played the right like a well tuned violin after 9 / 11. BEFORE 9 / 11 American patriots were opposed to the income tax, national ID, and the POLICE STATE. AFTER 9 / 11 the Democrats were able to abandon the POLICE STATE, the fight for National ID, and their overt opposition to the Constitution of the United States (as originally written and intended.) The Republicans and later MAGA Republicans took up up those Democrat / left positions and made them their own. Tea Party Republicans introduced the so called "Patriot Act," the National ID / REAL ID Act - E Verify and are waging a war against due process at the current time. So, what problem is being addressed with this "illegal immigrant / alien" narrative?
You want to build a wall around the United States because foreigners supposedly don't pay federal income taxes? Is THAT your argument? Don't you care that the income tax is illegal, unconstitutional, immoral, indefensible, unconscionable and has nothing to do with paying any federal debt? You didn't know that? That's going to be a whole new discussion. But, today, we have allowed the globalists working through the Democrats and Tea Party / MAGA Republicans to give us the ultimate POLICE STATE backed up by National ID based on your Socialist Surveillance Number - I mean your "Social Security Number" and make it possible for them to have you under surveillance from the womb to the tomb 24 / 7 / 365. I ask again, what is your opposition to foreigners coming into the United States? Are you willing to give it up provided that they do so "legally as you characterize it?"
I've been at this for more than TWO decades... you know, debating the secure the border crowd. They seem comfortable with the foreigners that come here, establish residency, become registered tax slaves with the Socialist Security Administration, and profess their membership in the NEW WORLD ORDER. They register to vote and remind us with each passing election cycle that the old guard - American patriots that revere the Constitution are on their way out. And it's the secure the border type that believes in this B.S. !!! If I'm describing you, then tell me what you're hoping to accomplish. Please.
Now, let me tell my you MY view. I got sick and tired of the Tea Party / MAGA B.S. artists locking me out of discussion boards and social media sites, claiming I was an open borders liberal. If one of them had said that to my face, they would be eating their teeth. They are in love with whatever in the Hell political propaganda prostitutes tell them, so let me state the facts for you. I support the Constitution as it was originally written and intended. My critics will point out that means that only Whites could become citizens. Okay. Yes. That is true. But those people criticizing me don't have any problem with supporting China with their wallets. There are more Chinese in China than there are White people on the face of the earth. China is 98 + percent Han Chinese. It is a homogeneous country. Japan claims to be the most racially pure country on earth. They are 98 percent Japanese. The same is true of the Koreans. Blacks ran the Whites out of Rhodesia and renamed it Zimbabwe. It is 99.7 percent Black. So, if anybody thinks I'm going to apologize for wanting a homeland for Whites, they are out of their damn mind. Somebody's culture, somebody's values, somebody's language is going to be the dominant one in EVERY country. America started out with a common race, a common religion, common values, and we became the greatest nation in the annals of history. There is no reason to change it. For that reason, I am NOT for forcing people to become Americans and I'm not for changing the cultural makeup of what our country was intended to be.
In the utopia of the MAGA and Tea Party cults, foreigners would become citizens and be able to displace the Posterity of the Constitution. In MY America, the foreigners could come here, work, earn money, and go home. They would have unalienable Rights, but they would NOT have the benefits and privileges of citizenship. In MY America, they could not vote, receive welfare, and their children wouldn't get a public education at taxpayer expense.
Make no mistake. The Republicans are THE party of the multiculturalist and negrophilist. Republicans are the primary party of the globalists (Democrats are communist wannabes.) The Republicans gave you the illegally ratified Fourteenth Amendment that nullified the Bill of Rights and unalienable Rights. The Republicans gave us the income tax, the so - called "Patriot Act," the National ID / REAL ID Act - E Verify and the ultimate POLICE STATE. We have been supporting the Republicans and now the MAGA Republicans as the lesser of two evils. We're losing either way, but what the globalists are doing relative to destroying America by flooding it with foreigners is a war of genocide against Whites. What I don't understand is why the MAGA people wail about multiculturalism, then turn around and profess their commitment to a multicultural America if the foreigners will just do it the legal way and sign up to be slaves with an SSN and citizenship. In my mind, it makes NO sense whatsoever. But, IF you don't want to hand America over in fee simple to the third world, you may benefit off of the rest of the ways that you can fight back and restore our country.
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Post by noclevername on Jun 14, 2023 17:13:40 GMT
Something needs to be said about where your rights come from before getting into the rest of the things to do. The current strategy is to claim that the 14th amendment is being misapplied. That is the reason in my opinion that people are willing to sell out their rights. They do not understand them. That is why they are cool with the national id and police state. More people need to be aware that if you are a 14th amendment citizen you are destined to see the United States become a different country and a different people running it. Most of the people who were teaching the correct interpretations are now gone. This site is the only place that is actively trying to get the word out. This link shows that this stuff has been around a while. www.georgegordon.org/ Good luck with getting a podcast going where all of this can be gone into in detail.
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Post by The Resister on Jun 15, 2023 17:04:44 GMT
Something needs to be said about where your rights come from before getting into the rest of the things to do. The current strategy is to claim that the 14th amendment is being misapplied. That is the reason in my opinion that people are willing to sell out their rights. They do not understand them. That is why they are cool with the national id and police state. More people need to be aware that if you are a 14th amendment citizen you are destined to see the United States become a different country and a different people running it. Most of the people who were teaching the correct interpretations are now gone. This site is the only place that is actively trying to get the word out. This link shows that this stuff has been around a while. www.georgegordon.org/ Good luck with getting a podcast going where all of this can be gone into in detail. The whole thing is, and we've harped on it a lot on Resisters, if you don't know where your Rights come from then you don't have any. Those people making Fourteenth Amendment arguments about non-existent " anchor babies" are urinating in the wind. Others are falsely claiming that a baby anchors the parents into the United States. Those positions are FALSE. If you're born here, you are an American regardless of the immigration status of the parents. NO country is bound to accept our citizens. Period. This matter has been litigated up to the United States Supreme Court and barring the people rising up against the illegally ratified Fourteenth Amendment or amending the Constitution, it is what it is. There are still things you could do about the situation. Let's continue: 3) There used to be a talk show host who obsessed with immigration. His spiel was borders, language, culture. The thing that has amazed me is the lack of support for making English the official language. English is an official language in India, but not in the United States. Why? If more people were required to speak English, fewer would qualify for the benefits and privileges of citizenship 4) NOBODY is forcing any of you to support businesses that hire undocumented foreigners. Walmart was convicted of knowingly hiring subcontractors that were undocumented. The MAGA crowd elected Trump to be president and he knowingly hired undocumented foreigners. You cannot expect the government to protect you from your own stupidity and think you're going to be free. Thomas Jefferson once said, “ If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be” 5) If you want to slow the flow, we've got to get serious about welfare reform. I'm telling you this from first hand experience. Too many White people have figure out how to game the system and live off welfare and " food stamps" so that they can avoid working for a living. Republicans are, supposedly closing some of the so - called loopholes: www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/republicans-aim-to-close-food-stamps-loophole-costing-taxpayers-billions/ar-AA1cAZBa?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=afdd9ff864134e408190b9f808bb5215&ei=31I have people in my family that live off the dole. Sad part is their own mother encourages it. These human shitsacks have rarely held a full time job for any appreciable amount of time. They live off of mommy and never contribute anything in taxes or engage in the protection, preservation, and advancement of our culture. They are not anomalies. As the above article shows, they are a major part of America. Until people go back to work and actually earn their living, you will have foreigners coming in to fill the void. And when I say get America back to work, it doesn't mean going to work for Wallyworld and spending all day on a cell phone while ignoring customers 6) If you want to see your community thrive, then set an example. We need people to interact with one another. Post here or on sites that cater to your beliefs. Far too many people are on Fakebook, Tik Tok, Twitter, Instagram, etc., etc., etc. They honestly believe that they are making some inroads because they can post what the globalists and communists ALLOW them to post. They think they are enlightening people because they get some likes or the view counter says they reached a lot of people. That, however, does not translate into numbers in the grand scheme of things. The left still proclaims gay pride (or some equally leftist objective) and if you oppose it, you are a Nazi. Why are you helping to assist them in their takeover? If you are on their sites, your posts only say that you are alone and desperate. It says that they control you because you have nowhere else to go. And, since the left hates you so much they are able to enlist the LGBTQP community and the globalists along with the third worlders to wage war against the Posterity of the Constitution (aka White, Christian, heterosexuals and constitutionalists.) Proclaim Liberty and unite / support those of like mind. We still have more to come...
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Post by The Resister on Jun 16, 2023 3:13:26 GMT
Top Ten Ways to Fight Back (continued from previous post)
7) Unfortunately, most legislative ideas that will work won't be considered by our legislators. Working within those parameters, you have to avoid the really BAD ideas that are floating around. You have to be willing to take a personal vow to NEVER support any measure that will increase the size, power, and / or scope of government. For example, what we should do as country is to incentivize corporations to hire and pay Americans over foreigners. If I were in charge I'd tax corporations heavily. Then I'd allow them to earn tax breaks and if they utilized all of them, they wouldn't be paying much tax at all. Here are some incentives:
A) Hire an all American staff - tax break B) Take people off the welfare dole, unemployment line, and offer opportunities for the elderly and handicapped - tax break C) Bring jobs back to America - tax break D) Offer wages that start at least 20 percent above the poverty level - tax break E) PENALIZE those who prefer foreign labor - a higher tax to offset any negative effects to American workers
We cannot prevent employers from hiring undocumented people. So, your best bet is to work within realistic parameters. Most people are planning to vote for Donald Trump for president. Even he knowingly hires undocumented foreigners
8) We've got to get beyond the socialist arguments surrounding so - called "illegal immigrants / aliens." Everybody has an unalienable Right to Liberty. So, instead of the government extending their version of a privilege of liberty where a whopping (sarcasm intended) 85,000 people maximum can work in the United States each year while nearly a million become citizens, let's reverse the numbers. Have unlimited numbers of people that can work without being expected to become citizens and start limiting the number of naturalizations we do each year
9) If you really want to resolve the flood tide of foreigners into America, you have to face the fact that right and left; conservative and liberal; Democrat and Republican are ALL working toward a multicultural nation. They are using the stubbornness, ignorance, apathy, and outright stupidity of the American people to con them into accepting cultural Marxism. Democrats are overt about their America. It will be run by non-Christians, non-Whites and those on the far left of the political spectrum. The right is a little more cunning. They kept alive the unconstitutional income tax by telling you we needed the SSN along with National ID to curb that "illegal immigration." How'd that work out for you? You gave up more Liberties and still have the same problem. Build a wall around America? All you got there was the Constitution Free Zone and the government making such a wall a joke. But your elected leaders told you they did all they could... knowing full well the courts were going to reverse any plan to stop the flow of immigrants into America. DJT ruled by Executive Orders that were only good as long as he was president. What a joke!
I'm saving the best for last. It's a bit more detailed so it needs its own post. Maybe some day someone will read this thread and actually comment on some aspect we haven't covered OR they may think they can challenge me on a level playing field. NOT. Either way, lee will have his answer.
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