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Post by The Resister on Jun 16, 2023 22:53:52 GMT
Top Ten Ways to Fight Back (continued from previous post)I have given you some of the more important things we could do to stop the flow. Granted, the way to do it challenges all you've read about or heard about over the last 25 or so years. I've been working at this one issue for that long. Not bragging here, but I don't have any superiors and damn few equals on the subject. Most of the people posting stuff on social media are either liars or idiots. You see, a couple of decades ago the patriot movement (for lack of a more descriptive adjective) was winning this war. Civilian militias were protecting private property along the border and the government was patrolling their land. The constitutionalists had National ID on the run with less than 15 percent of Americans supporting National ID. Patriots were reclaiming their Preamble status (an issue I refer to a lot on this board.) Then 9 / 11 happened and the right took up the left's agenda and began claiming their talking points as if the right invented them. They didn't. And that means we have to take a trip down Memory Lane to understand what happened so that you can understand the final point of these mini-rants. In March of 2003 members of Ranch Rescue confronted Salvadorans trying to enter the United States over private land in an improper entry attempt. Ranch Rescue confronted the trespassers and an altercation ensued. The Salvadorans ended up getting the snot beat out of them and they enlisted the aid of the Southern Poverty Law Center. The SPLC sued and the Salvadorans were awarded over a million dollars all said and done. That included, but not limited to the ranch owned by the Ranch Rescue leader: www.splcenter.org/seeking-justice/case-docket/leiva-v-ranch-rescueAt that time I advised Ranch Rescue to appeal the decisions, but they rolled over then played dead, allowing the SPLC to win in a default judgment. In other words, despite my best efforts Ranch Rescue didn't fight back. that was the beginning of the end of the patriot movement (for lack of a more descriptive adjective) and those people who had fought for decades to reclaim their Preamble status disappeared as did sovereign rights advocates, tax protesters, constitutionalists and civilian militias. NONE of the old guard is around any longer. In the ensuing years, because I had the audacity not to back down, the right kicked me to the curb. Instead, the former " patriots" adopted Bill Clinton's mantra denouncing " criminal illegal aliens" and waging a war that required the right to forfeit their unalienable Rights in exchange for the opportunity to become slaves of the NEW WORLD ORDER - complete with a Socialist Surveillance Number ... there I go again, " Social Security Number," de facto National ID Cards (jokingly called a driver's license or state issued ID and still based on that SSN.) They opted for 24 / 7 / 365 womb to the tomb surveillance and having every financial transaction they ever got involved in monitored and recorded. Instead of small face to face meetings and getting off the grid to fight, the former " patriots" were content to run around on the border in their cammies playing as if they were an auxiliary of Homeland (IN) Security. They bought into the B.S. being pandered by the so - called " Minutemen" - which turned out to be a front for the National Socialists. Their leaders turned out being a mass murderer, a murderer, a pedophile, and other assorted scumbags. I'd be glad to document this for any doubters. Their demise gave rise to the Tea Party which was supportive of the Minutemen and then the MAGA / Donald Trump deal. In the twenty or so years now that they have had control of the situation, it has gotten worse by the year. It makes NO sense. I'm giving those who support that idiocy an opportunity to meet me on a level playing field and defend it. Ranch Rescue did not appeal the verdict in their case and the court ruled that the civilian border patrol group violated the " civil rights" of the trespassers who were attempting an improper entry. Ranch Rescue members helped set the precedent that the civil rights of undocumented foreigners trumps the private property Rights of Americans. So, that is not on the left. It is the fault of those on the right. And the right tried to rectify the situation by supporting the National ID / REAL ID Act - E Verify legislation (which was introduced by the same man that introduced the so - called " Patriot Act" into Congress.) They tried to fix things by supporting the idiotic notion of building a wall around the southern border - which allowed the feds to come up with the Constitution Free Zone (which suspended constitutional Rights on the pretext of pursuing " illegal aliens.") What a load of horse poop! The Constitution Free Zone nullifies constitutional protections for everyone within 100 miles of a border line (which includes most Americans): www.foxnews.com/politics/judge-reaffirms-constitution-free-zones-near-border-teeing-up-high-court-fightThat the right switched places with the left and gave the left the job of protecting your constitutional Liberties while the right sells out the Constitution with National ID cards and a perpetual POLICE STATE boggles my mind. That brings me to the final way to fight back: 10) If you really want an end to the flooding of America by foreigners, you will have to be honest with yourself. I fail to believe that people would sell out their Liberties if Uncle Scam will only get rid of so - called "illegal immigrants / aliens." There has to be more to it than what the right has fed me for the last twenty years. Just because a foreigner gets his / her SSN, National ID card, and becomes a subject of the NEW WORLD ORDER doesn't make them less of a threat to your Liberties. It makes them MORE of a threat. It means that, regardless of immigration status, they will eventually be given the privilege of voting: thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/416225-the-truth-about-illegal-voting/I've already shown where the foreigners end up once they are accepted into this country. So, what's with this " illegal" mumbo jumbo? I'm not for extending the privileges and benefits of citizenship to foreigners AND I'm for reducing the number of naturalizations each year. Soooo... having shown you where we've been in the past with this, you should start thinking about returning to that time and moving in THAT direction.
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Post by professorx on Jun 17, 2023 13:37:53 GMT
Top Ten Ways to Fight Back (continued from previous post)I have given you some of the more important things we could do to stop the flow. Granted, the way to do it challenges all you've read about or heard about over the last 25 or so years. I've been working at this one issue for that long. Not bragging here, but I don't have any superiors and damn few equals on the subject. Most of the people posting stuff on social media are either liars or idiots. You see, a couple of decades ago the patriot movement (for lack of a more descriptive adjective) was winning this war. Civilian militias were protecting private property along the border and the government was patrolling their land. The constitutionalists had National ID on the run with less than 15 percent of Americans supporting National ID. Patriots were reclaiming their Preamble status (an issue I refer to a lot on this board.) Then 9 / 11 happened and the right took up the left's agenda and began claiming their talking points as if the right invented them. They didn't. And that means we have to take a trip down Memory Lane to understand what happened so that you can understand the final point of these mini-rants. In March of 2003 members of Ranch Rescue confronted Salvadorans trying to enter the United States over private land in an improper entry attempt. Ranch Rescue confronted the trespassers and an altercation ensued. The Salvadorans ended up getting the snot beat out of them and they enlisted the aid of the Southern Poverty Law Center. The SPLC sued and the Salvadorans were awarded over a million dollars all said and done. That included, but not limited to the ranch owned by the Ranch Rescue leader: www.splcenter.org/seeking-justice/case-docket/leiva-v-ranch-rescueAt that time I advised Ranch Rescue to appeal the decisions, but they rolled over then played dead, allowing the SPLC to win in a default judgment. In other words, despite my best efforts Ranch Rescue didn't fight back. that was the beginning of the end of the patriot movement (for lack of a more descriptive adjective) and those people who had fought for decades to reclaim their Preamble status disappeared as did sovereign rights advocates, tax protesters, constitutionalists and civilian militias. NONE of the old guard is around any longer. In the ensuing years, because I had the audacity not to back down, the right kicked me to the curb. Instead, the former " patriots" adopted Bill Clinton's mantra denouncing " criminal illegal aliens" and waging a war that required the right to forfeit their unalienable Rights in exchange for the opportunity to become slaves of the NEW WORLD ORDER - complete with a Socialist Surveillance Number ... there I go again, " Social Security Number," de facto National ID Cards (jokingly called a driver's license or state issued ID and still based on that SSN.) They opted for 24 / 7 / 365 womb to the tomb surveillance and having every financial transaction they ever got involved in monitored and recorded. Instead of small face to face meetings and getting off the grid to fight, the former " patriots" were content to run around on the border in their cammies playing as if they were an auxiliary of Homeland (IN) Security. They bought into the B.S. being pandered by the so - called " Minutemen" - which turned out to be a front for the National Socialists. Their leaders turned out being a mass murderer, a murderer, a pedophile, and other assorted scumbags. I'd be glad to document this for any doubters. Their demise gave rise to the Tea Party which was supportive of the Minutemen and then the MAGA / Donald Trump deal. In the twenty or so years now that they have had control of the situation, it has gotten worse by the year. It makes NO sense. I'm giving those who support that idiocy an opportunity to meet me on a level playing field and defend it. Ranch Rescue did not appeal the verdict in their case and the court ruled that the civilian border patrol group violated the " civil rights" of the trespassers who were attempting an improper entry. Ranch Rescue members helped set the precedent that the civil rights of undocumented foreigners trumps the private property Rights of Americans. So, that is not on the left. It is the fault of those on the right. And the right tried to rectify the situation by supporting the National ID / REAL ID Act - E Verify legislation (which was introduced by the same man that introduced the so - called " Patriot Act" into Congress.) They tried to fix things by supporting the idiotic notion of building a wall around the southern border - which allowed the feds to come up with the Constitution Free Zone (which suspended constitutional Rights on the pretext of pursuing " illegal aliens.") What a load of horse poop! The Constitution Free Zone nullifies constitutional protections for everyone within 100 miles of a border line (which includes most Americans): www.foxnews.com/politics/judge-reaffirms-constitution-free-zones-near-border-teeing-up-high-court-fightThat the right switched places with the left and gave the left the job of protecting your constitutional Liberties while the right sells out the Constitution with National ID cards and a perpetual POLICE STATE boggles my mind. That brings me to the final way to fight back: 10) If you really want an end to the flooding of America by foreigners, you will have to be honest with yourself. I fail to believe that people would sell out their Liberties if Uncle Scam will only get rid of so - called "illegal immigrants / aliens." There has to be more to it than what the right has fed me for the last twenty years. Just because a foreigner gets his / her SSN, National ID card, and becomes a subject of the NEW WORLD ORDER doesn't make them less of a threat to your Liberties. It makes them MORE of a threat. It means that, regardless of immigration status, they will eventually be given the privilege of voting: thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/416225-the-truth-about-illegal-voting/I've already shown where the foreigners end up once they are accepted into this country. So, what's with this " illegal" mumbo jumbo? I'm not for extending the privileges and benefits of citizenship to foreigners AND I'm for reducing the number of naturalizations each year. Soooo... having shown you where we've been in the past with this, you should start thinking about returning to that time and moving in THAT direction. This has been an interesting thread. There is one thing that concerns me maybe not concerns me just makes one wonder. With what you've said how do you respond to those accusing you of being an open borders liberal? Also you didn't go as deep into proving things as in the past on other boards. Would you care to elaborate?
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Post by The Resister on Jun 17, 2023 16:40:27 GMT
Top Ten Ways to Fight Back (continued from previous post)I have given you some of the more important things we could do to stop the flow. Granted, the way to do it challenges all you've read about or heard about over the last 25 or so years. I've been working at this one issue for that long. Not bragging here, but I don't have any superiors and damn few equals on the subject. Most of the people posting stuff on social media are either liars or idiots. You see, a couple of decades ago the patriot movement (for lack of a more descriptive adjective) was winning this war. Civilian militias were protecting private property along the border and the government was patrolling their land. The constitutionalists had National ID on the run with less than 15 percent of Americans supporting National ID. Patriots were reclaiming their Preamble status (an issue I refer to a lot on this board.) Then 9 / 11 happened and the right took up the left's agenda and began claiming their talking points as if the right invented them. They didn't. And that means we have to take a trip down Memory Lane to understand what happened so that you can understand the final point of these mini-rants. In March of 2003 members of Ranch Rescue confronted Salvadorans trying to enter the United States over private land in an improper entry attempt. Ranch Rescue confronted the trespassers and an altercation ensued. The Salvadorans ended up getting the snot beat out of them and they enlisted the aid of the Southern Poverty Law Center. The SPLC sued and the Salvadorans were awarded over a million dollars all said and done. That included, but not limited to the ranch owned by the Ranch Rescue leader: www.splcenter.org/seeking-justice/case-docket/leiva-v-ranch-rescueAt that time I advised Ranch Rescue to appeal the decisions, but they rolled over then played dead, allowing the SPLC to win in a default judgment. In other words, despite my best efforts Ranch Rescue didn't fight back. that was the beginning of the end of the patriot movement (for lack of a more descriptive adjective) and those people who had fought for decades to reclaim their Preamble status disappeared as did sovereign rights advocates, tax protesters, constitutionalists and civilian militias. NONE of the old guard is around any longer. In the ensuing years, because I had the audacity not to back down, the right kicked me to the curb. Instead, the former " patriots" adopted Bill Clinton's mantra denouncing " criminal illegal aliens" and waging a war that required the right to forfeit their unalienable Rights in exchange for the opportunity to become slaves of the NEW WORLD ORDER - complete with a Socialist Surveillance Number ... there I go again, " Social Security Number," de facto National ID Cards (jokingly called a driver's license or state issued ID and still based on that SSN.) They opted for 24 / 7 / 365 womb to the tomb surveillance and having every financial transaction they ever got involved in monitored and recorded. Instead of small face to face meetings and getting off the grid to fight, the former " patriots" were content to run around on the border in their cammies playing as if they were an auxiliary of Homeland (IN) Security. They bought into the B.S. being pandered by the so - called " Minutemen" - which turned out to be a front for the National Socialists. Their leaders turned out being a mass murderer, a murderer, a pedophile, and other assorted scumbags. I'd be glad to document this for any doubters. Their demise gave rise to the Tea Party which was supportive of the Minutemen and then the MAGA / Donald Trump deal. In the twenty or so years now that they have had control of the situation, it has gotten worse by the year. It makes NO sense. I'm giving those who support that idiocy an opportunity to meet me on a level playing field and defend it. Ranch Rescue did not appeal the verdict in their case and the court ruled that the civilian border patrol group violated the " civil rights" of the trespassers who were attempting an improper entry. Ranch Rescue members helped set the precedent that the civil rights of undocumented foreigners trumps the private property Rights of Americans. So, that is not on the left. It is the fault of those on the right. And the right tried to rectify the situation by supporting the National ID / REAL ID Act - E Verify legislation (which was introduced by the same man that introduced the so - called " Patriot Act" into Congress.) They tried to fix things by supporting the idiotic notion of building a wall around the southern border - which allowed the feds to come up with the Constitution Free Zone (which suspended constitutional Rights on the pretext of pursuing " illegal aliens.") What a load of horse poop! The Constitution Free Zone nullifies constitutional protections for everyone within 100 miles of a border line (which includes most Americans): www.foxnews.com/politics/judge-reaffirms-constitution-free-zones-near-border-teeing-up-high-court-fightThat the right switched places with the left and gave the left the job of protecting your constitutional Liberties while the right sells out the Constitution with National ID cards and a perpetual POLICE STATE boggles my mind. That brings me to the final way to fight back: 10) If you really want an end to the flooding of America by foreigners, you will have to be honest with yourself. I fail to believe that people would sell out their Liberties if Uncle Scam will only get rid of so - called "illegal immigrants / aliens." There has to be more to it than what the right has fed me for the last twenty years. Just because a foreigner gets his / her SSN, National ID card, and becomes a subject of the NEW WORLD ORDER doesn't make them less of a threat to your Liberties. It makes them MORE of a threat. It means that, regardless of immigration status, they will eventually be given the privilege of voting: thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/416225-the-truth-about-illegal-voting/I've already shown where the foreigners end up once they are accepted into this country. So, what's with this " illegal" mumbo jumbo? I'm not for extending the privileges and benefits of citizenship to foreigners AND I'm for reducing the number of naturalizations each year. Soooo... having shown you where we've been in the past with this, you should start thinking about returning to that time and moving in THAT direction. This has been an interesting thread. There is one thing that concerns me maybe not concerns me just makes one wonder. With what you've said how do you respond to those accusing you of being an open borders liberal? Also you didn't go as deep into proving things as in the past on other boards. Would you care to elaborate? I tried to quote the above, but the board seems to be giving me a problem. If it works, fine, if not I'm responding to Professor X: BEFORE 9 / 11 the right wing (John Birch Society, conservatives, constitutionalists, tax protesters, etc.) were united in fighting National ID and the use of the SSN for identification. The Republicans favored giving guest workers an ID card to allow them to work in the U.S. while not having to become citizens. Civilian militias joined the John Birch Society in fighting National ID, the SSN as identification, the POLICE STATE, eminent domain abuses, and the NEW WORLD ORDER. Today everything is bass ackwards and upside down. The right took up the fight for National ID, SSN based ID cards, the proliferation of the POLICE STATE, calling foreigners " criminals," and the right abandoned most of their posts to pursue an anti-immigrant agenda that was above the pale of reasoning. While they're calling me an open border liberal, they are the ones that changed course. Not me. Them. I can only tell you the facts: Prior to the civil rights era of the 1960s America had become the greatest nation in the annals of history with what you call open borders. We did not have forced racial / cultural amalgamation; we did not have a quota system to tell us how many people could be hired or fired. And what is the antithesis of open borders? Is it not a militarized border? Is it not having a Constitution Free Zone??? - a concept that was opposed by ALL right wingers, patriots, and constitutionalists prior to 9 / 11. We already know how to slow the flow. Our country did a great job of it until we began trying to create a false system of equality that was actually a genocidal program to get rid of Whites. You can't pass enough laws to " make great again." You cannot pass enough laws to take you back to where you were. If America were great then my strategy is to eliminate the laws you passed that changed that dynamic that made us great. We aren't going to make America great by destroying the Constitution in an effort to get rid of so - called " illegal aliens" when the right is willing to accept them as citizens ... provided they become subjects of the NEW WORLD ORDER and accept the same slavery we've voted in for ourselves.
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Post by professorx on Jun 20, 2023 12:04:08 GMT
It says in the Farmers Almanac that if a man had half his wishes he would just double his trouble. Thinking on that wall around the United States and a militarized border maybe it is time to rethink these strategies. The wall means the Constitution Free Zone. The Constitution Free Zone means that the Constitution is suspended within a hundred miles of any border. Since the excuse is to pursue illegal aliens the Constitution Free Zone could be expanded to virtually anywhere that the cops can claim they are pursuing illegal aliens. That would mean an end to property rights and the complete destruction of the Fourth Amendment. No wonder that this was a fight that the National Socialists took up. They don't care about private property rights. Just one thing. How did the ACLU end up adopting the battle against a Constitution Free Zone? They don't even believe in the Constitution.
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Post by lee on Jun 24, 2023 17:23:43 GMT
You are extremely well Educated, and I couldn't find this information in a single book. How can we change the current situation in America and reverse everything back in favor of God and our Constitution?>
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Post by The Resister on Jun 26, 2023 3:24:27 GMT
You are extremely well Educated, and I couldn't find this information in a single book. How can we change the current situation in America and reverse everything back in favor of God and our Constitution?> This has become an issue where I've become more knowledgeable about the issue rather than educated. My experience comes from many more years of working in this than the rest of the people. For example, just yesterday I was cleaning out boxes that I have acquired over a period of decades. I found a letter exchange between myself and a United States Senator from the year 1980. As a kid I was concerned about the fact that the government was importing foreigners to work in the United States. That's four decades - that is longer than you've been alive. Having been banished to the island of irrelevancy, it is by God's will alone that you are reading stuff that will not be allowed to be discussed, much less be in a book anytime soon. Another example is in order: I went onto a site that promises all views will be heard and censorship is not employed. A group was advertising and they call themselves the " New Minutemen" and the self proclaimed leader says that he will not allow anyone into his group that promotes " racism." That right there told me I was reading the writing of a functional illiterate, a plant, or maybe an idiot. When people shut the door on so - called " racists," they lock out sincere constitutional patriots. Not everybody that acknowledges race is a bigot. My first suspicion about these kinds of people is that they are working for globalists. They promise to end the immigration debacle, but they are all about distancing themselves from " racists." The reality is, the more modern iteration of the so - called " Minutemen" boasted J im Gilchrist, Chris Simcox, J.T. Ready, and Shawna Forde. Gilchrist, main organizer, was a former newsman that jumped from racist to globalist and then snitch (depending on who was interviewing him.) Chris Simcox, the main spokesman, was convicted of child sexual abuse while his right hand man, J.T. Ready committed a mass murder / suicide. Shawna Forde, Gilchrist's main leader after Gilchrist and Simcox split up, was convicted of killing a 29 year old man and his 9 year old daughter. She is on death row. This was the real border watch group whose single issue tore apart the patriot movement and emptied civilian militias. Despite my best efforts, nobody listened and over the last two and half decades I have watched dozens of patriots going to prison, being flipped and becoming informants; some have been forced into retirement and can no longer associate with their previous brothers in arms. Many are now closet globalists or lap dogs for Donald Trump. And I got kicked to the curb for warning people. From the time of the so - called " Minutemen" to the people at the Jan. 6 Capitol Rally thousands of people have been taken out of the game by political propaganda prostitutes pushing left wing solutions to the immigration debacle. Meanwhile, in all that time, not a single soul has ever spent so much as a night in jail for taking my advice. And I've been a Hell of a lot more effective than they have. It's a point I can make now and not worry about being censored. What those gutless maggots say about me are things they have NEVER had the courage to say to my face - and if they did, I'm still man enough to put them over my knee and take a leather strap to the back of their arse and give them the beating their parents should have. As far as the Constitution is concerned, we are never, ever going back. The man the right rallies around today for leadership hates, loathes, and despises the Constitution. He is opposed to the Second Amendment, the Fourth Amendment, and is pro - LGBTQP and pro - abortion. The organizations that the right associate with still believe in a " Judeo - Christian" America. The problem there is that no Jew signed the Declaration of Independence, Articles of Confederation or the Constitution of the United States. If you acknowledge that fact the globalists will swear and be damned you are a neo-Nazi, or antisemitic (sic) - yet, again those liars will not say such insulting language to my face. All they end up doing is giving a platform for people like John Ossoff, Adam Schiff, Diane Feinstein, Chuck Schumer, and Bernie Sanders to dismantle the Republic with. The principles that made America great will, at some point, serve as a catalyst for the people to rebel against the tyranny and oppression that is prevalent, albeit subtle. History is cyclical and one day God's people will tire of being second class citizens in the country their ancestors fought, bled and died in to establish the concept of Liberty and God given Rights (aka unalienable Rights.)
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Post by professorx on Jun 26, 2023 14:17:17 GMT
You are extremely well Educated, and I couldn't find this information in a single book. How can we change the current situation in America and reverse everything back in favor of God and our Constitution?> We have talked about this a lot on previous boards and some on this board. The Constitution is gone. We do have the Charter for people to support. The principles of freedom should be fought for. You should be reading the Charter and you should be trying to help educate people on the fundamentals in that document. www.usresisters.com/charter/ Click that link. Read it. I'm like the others on this board. We realize we aren't winning people over and we realize that memes and one liners aren't saving this country either. Mainstream conservatives are going two steps forward and three steps back. Our only hope now is to enlist a few people to support that Charter.
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Post by noclevername on Jun 27, 2023 3:01:59 GMT
You are extremely well Educated, and I couldn't find this information in a single book. How can we change the current situation in America and reverse everything back in favor of God and our Constitution?> This has become an issue where I've become more knowledgeable about the issue rather than educated. My experience comes from many more years of working in this than the rest of the people. For example, just yesterday I was cleaning out boxes that I have acquired over a period of decades. I found a letter exchange between myself and a United States Senator from the year 1980. As a kid I was concerned about the fact that the government was importing foreigners to work in the United States. That's four decades - that is longer than you've been alive. Having been banished to the island of irrelevancy, it is by God's will alone that you are reading stuff that will not be allowed to be discussed, much less be in a book anytime soon. Another example is in order: I went onto a site that promises all views will be heard and censorship is not employed. A group was advertising and they call themselves the " New Minutemen" and the self proclaimed leader says that he will not allow anyone into his group that promotes " racism." That right there told me I was reading the writing of a functional illiterate, a plant, or maybe an idiot. When people shut the door on so - called " racists," they lock out sincere constitutional patriots. Not everybody that acknowledges race is a bigot. My first suspicion about these kinds of people is that they are working for globalists. They promise to end the immigration debacle, but they are all about distancing themselves from " racists." The reality is, the more modern iteration of the so - called " Minutemen" boasted J im Gilchrist, Chris Simcox, J.T. Ready, and Shawna Forde. Gilchrist, main organizer, was a former newsman that jumped from racist to globalist and then snitch (depending on who was interviewing him.) Chris Simcox, the main spokesman, was convicted of child sexual abuse while his right hand man, J.T. Ready committed a mass murder / suicide. Shawna Forde, Gilchrist's main leader after Gilchrist and Simcox split up, was convicted of killing a 29 year old man and his 9 year old daughter. She is on death row. This was the real border watch group whose single issue tore apart the patriot movement and emptied civilian militias. Despite my best efforts, nobody listened and over the last two and half decades I have watched dozens of patriots going to prison, being flipped and becoming informants; some have been forced into retirement and can no longer associate with their previous brothers in arms. Many are now closet globalists or lap dogs for Donald Trump. And I got kicked to the curb for warning people. From the time of the so - called " Minutemen" to the people at the Jan. 6 Capitol Rally thousands of people have been taken out of the game by political propaganda prostitutes pushing left wing solutions to the immigration debacle. Meanwhile, in all that time, not a single soul has ever spent so much as a night in jail for taking my advice. And I've been a Hell of a lot more effective than they have. It's a point I can make now and not worry about being censored. What those gutless maggots say about me are things they have NEVER had the courage to say to my face - and if they did, I'm still man enough to put them over my knee and take a leather strap to the back of their arse and give them the beating their parents should have. As far as the Constitution is concerned, we are never, ever going back. The man the right rallies around today for leadership hates, loathes, and despises the Constitution. He is opposed to the Second Amendment, the Fourth Amendment, and is pro - LGBTQP and pro - abortion. The organizations that the right associate with still believe in a " Judeo - Christian" America. The problem there is that no Jew signed the Declaration of Independence, Articles of Confederation or the Constitution of the United States. If you acknowledge that fact the globalists will swear and be damned you are a neo-Nazi, or antisemitic (sic) - yet, again those liars will not say such insulting language to my face. All they end up doing is giving a platform for people like John Ossoff, Adam Schiff, Diane Feinstein, Chuck Schumer, and Bernie Sanders to dismantle the Republic with. The principles that made America great will, at some point, serve as a catalyst for the people to rebel against the tyranny and oppression that is prevalent, albeit subtle. History is cyclical and one day God's people will tire of being second class citizens in the country their ancestors fought, bled and died in to establish the concept of Liberty and God given Rights (aka unalienable Rights.) Without this thread it might look like the subject itself gets you triggered. It is understandable that you want to heard above the voices that have had control of this for many years. You do need to go more in depth on what it would take to turn this subject around. Also this is more for myself. Can you explain the reason that it means so much to you for people to accept the stance that coming into the U.S. without papers is a civil instead of a criminal offense. Against the law is against the law. Am I right?
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Post by lee on Jun 27, 2023 16:34:41 GMT
I believe the information Resister post is the best available and figuring out how to turn the Country around is difficult. It can be done with commitment and organization from the people.
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Post by The Resister on Jun 27, 2023 17:14:54 GMT
noclevername wrote: Without this thread it might look like the subject itself gets you triggered. It is understandable that you want to heard above the voices that have had control of this for many years. You do need to go more in depth on what it would take to turn this subject around. Also this is more for myself. Can you explain the reason that it means so much to you for people to accept the stance that coming into the U.S. without papers is a civil instead of a criminal offense. Against the law is against the law. Am I right?
REPLY - Some days I can't get the quote feature to work right to save my butt. Let me see if I can answer you so that you understand:
IF those people who are like minded would band together and support each other, the immigration and multicultural problem would cease to exist. If we don't hire them, rent to them, BUY from them, USE their services, and otherwise conduct business with them, the whole incentive for them coming here disappears. You can't pass enough laws to protect you from yourself. It's that simple. Up until the 1960s we had foreigners freely coming into the United States, people hiring them when needed, and open borders. Yet we had no problems. Why do you suppose that is? Their children didn't automatically get enrolled in school and a taxpayer paid education? They were expected to assimilate? We could discriminate (and many did) could be one of the possible reasons.
Today the American people can't resolve the issue because so many have bought into their own flimsy propaganda, to wit - "I don't care if they come here if they just do it legally." What a dishonest or misinformed line of B.S.! That language is code for citizenship AND, once they become citizens, they will displace the Posterity of the framers of the Constitution, trash said Constitution, and America will not be the country envisioned by the founders of this country and framers of the Constitution.
So, now the ten million dollar question: Why have I sacrificed so much - even getting blacklisted from the movement (for lack of a more descriptive adjective) and not backing down at any time? Well look at this board closely. I have railed against the illegally ratified Fourteenth Amendment in many, many, many posts. ONE of the reasons (aside from stripping us of unalienable Rights) comes down to simple wording of that Amendment. It reads (in part):
"nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."
To make sure you understand the distinction, the author (s) of the Fourteenth Amendment define a citizen in that amendment (as opposed to a person.) Fourteenth Amendment citizens are granted privileges and immunities. There is where they stripped us of unalienable Rights and replaced them with privileges. THAT is how they limit the Second Amendment. They incorporated the Bill of Rights into the Fourteenth Amendment. THEN they guaranteed all persons the grants of life, liberty, and property along with due process. Sometimes we call them "rights," but they are given by the government. You can call someone an illegal alien / immigrant and they are still a person. I'm not defending the illegally ratified Fourteenth Amendment; I'm explaining what it means to the liberals that rule on it.
The anti-immigrant crowd runs around calling people "illegal aliens / immigrants" and expect the LEO community to arrest and deport them without any due process. Even their standard bearer, Donald Trump, likes to violate your due process (Fourth Amendment) AND after you've been presumed guilty THEN give you something the globalists call due process? What in the Hell is wrong with these people? Since due process is not expected for the foreigners without papers, then the legal community extends to its Fourteenth Amendment citizens the equal protection of the laws. That means YOU can be presumed guilty and probable cause / warrants / due process is denied based upon the whims of the government. Since the early 2000s I've known hundreds of people that have had their homes raided, some arrested and thrown on the pavement (suffering physical injuries); some were jailed and / or sent to prison; a lot of them were flipped and forced to work for Uncle Scam as snitches / informants; others were murdered by the feds or local LEOs. Quite frankly, I don't want to be that kind of victim - and that is especially true while the IRS is being given 87,000 new agents to pursue us with AND the BATFE is going door to door now, doing warrantless search and seizures in order to confiscate harmless gun accessories and send otherwise peaceful civilians to prison for violating the laws of regulatory agencies.
The United States Supreme Court has ruled that the foreigner just being here is NOT illegal. If they don't have papers, they can be charged with the civil violation of improper entry; however, they can conceivably be charged with other crimes IF they commit them while here without papers. In order to stop them and look into their background the LEOs need probable cause. You can't just round them up and deport them. Well... we can, but then that standard can apply to ANY person, Americans included, if the government wants to harass and / or intimidate you. By protecting the foreigners rights, I'm protecting my own.
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Post by professorx on Jun 27, 2023 18:14:03 GMT
This has become an issue where I've become more knowledgeable about the issue rather than educated. My experience comes from many more years of working in this than the rest of the people. For example, just yesterday I was cleaning out boxes that I have acquired over a period of decades. I found a letter exchange between myself and a United States Senator from the year 1980. As a kid I was concerned about the fact that the government was importing foreigners to work in the United States. That's four decades - that is longer than you've been alive. Having been banished to the island of irrelevancy, it is by God's will alone that you are reading stuff that will not be allowed to be discussed, much less be in a book anytime soon. Another example is in order: I went onto a site that promises all views will be heard and censorship is not employed. A group was advertising and they call themselves the " New Minutemen" and the self proclaimed leader says that he will not allow anyone into his group that promotes " racism." That right there told me I was reading the writing of a functional illiterate, a plant, or maybe an idiot. When people shut the door on so - called " racists," they lock out sincere constitutional patriots. Not everybody that acknowledges race is a bigot. My first suspicion about these kinds of people is that they are working for globalists. They promise to end the immigration debacle, but they are all about distancing themselves from " racists." The reality is, the more modern iteration of the so - called " Minutemen" boasted J im Gilchrist, Chris Simcox, J.T. Ready, and Shawna Forde. Gilchrist, main organizer, was a former newsman that jumped from racist to globalist and then snitch (depending on who was interviewing him.) Chris Simcox, the main spokesman, was convicted of child sexual abuse while his right hand man, J.T. Ready committed a mass murder / suicide. Shawna Forde, Gilchrist's main leader after Gilchrist and Simcox split up, was convicted of killing a 29 year old man and his 9 year old daughter. She is on death row. This was the real border watch group whose single issue tore apart the patriot movement and emptied civilian militias. Despite my best efforts, nobody listened and over the last two and half decades I have watched dozens of patriots going to prison, being flipped and becoming informants; some have been forced into retirement and can no longer associate with their previous brothers in arms. Many are now closet globalists or lap dogs for Donald Trump. And I got kicked to the curb for warning people. From the time of the so - called " Minutemen" to the people at the Jan. 6 Capitol Rally thousands of people have been taken out of the game by political propaganda prostitutes pushing left wing solutions to the immigration debacle. Meanwhile, in all that time, not a single soul has ever spent so much as a night in jail for taking my advice. And I've been a Hell of a lot more effective than they have. It's a point I can make now and not worry about being censored. What those gutless maggots say about me are things they have NEVER had the courage to say to my face - and if they did, I'm still man enough to put them over my knee and take a leather strap to the back of their arse and give them the beating their parents should have. As far as the Constitution is concerned, we are never, ever going back. The man the right rallies around today for leadership hates, loathes, and despises the Constitution. He is opposed to the Second Amendment, the Fourth Amendment, and is pro - LGBTQP and pro - abortion. The organizations that the right associate with still believe in a " Judeo - Christian" America. The problem there is that no Jew signed the Declaration of Independence, Articles of Confederation or the Constitution of the United States. If you acknowledge that fact the globalists will swear and be damned you are a neo-Nazi, or antisemitic (sic) - yet, again those liars will not say such insulting language to my face. All they end up doing is giving a platform for people like John Ossoff, Adam Schiff, Diane Feinstein, Chuck Schumer, and Bernie Sanders to dismantle the Republic with. The principles that made America great will, at some point, serve as a catalyst for the people to rebel against the tyranny and oppression that is prevalent, albeit subtle. History is cyclical and one day God's people will tire of being second class citizens in the country their ancestors fought, bled and died in to establish the concept of Liberty and God given Rights (aka unalienable Rights.) Without this thread it might look like the subject itself gets you triggered. It is understandable that you want to heard above the voices that have had control of this for many years. You do need to go more in depth on what it would take to turn this subject around. Also this is more for myself. Can you explain the reason that it means so much to you for people to accept the stance that coming into the U.S. without papers is a civil instead of a criminal offense. Against the law is against the law. Am I right? The Resister has had many phone conversations with me about your question. He left out a couple of examples that were relevant to my own concerns. A lot of people are seizing on the opportunity to create Second Amendment sanctuary cities. This came about after the courts ruled that the feds could not stop the states and local governments from establishing sanctuary cities for those without papers. One of two things happen in that scenario. We can own guns regardless of whether or not Biden signs the U.N. treaty outlawing them or does it with executive orders, the proposed 28th amendment, pending legislation or judges that legislate from the bench. If not and Second Amendment sanctuary cities are illegal then they are equally illegal for the foreigners that do not have papers. That is what is meant by equal protection of the laws. If the government declared improper entry to be a crime then if you had past tickets for parking violations, improper U turns or something like that then the government could retroactively punish you. You could be subject to fines, fees, increased insurance premium rates, denial of insurance coverage, jail time and even revocation of your drivers license to go along with a criminal record. Civil is civil and criminal is criminal. When you have something to lose coming down on the other guy like a ton of bricks is not the smartest thing you could do. Since tattle tale boxes exist for vehicles none of this is hypothetical it is possible.
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Post by noclevername on Jun 27, 2023 22:28:05 GMT
I believe the information Resister post is the best available and figuring out how to turn the Country around is difficult. It can be done with commitment and organization from the people. When it comes to the more conservative types it is said that trying to get them to work together is like herding cats. The exception to that is the Trump phenomenon . Aren't you glad this site has spell check? People will vote for Trump even if Christ comes back in earthly form and warns them. That only merits acknowledging because the solutions that are being tried have had over twenty years to work. The democrats came up with most of the ideas except those adopted by National Socialists. You are right about organization. Until the people commit to a solid plan of action and all work toward it we will not reclaim our country. That means we work together. We do not vote for political candidates that tell us they will do what is in our best interests and then not be specific.
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Post by lee on Jun 28, 2023 17:43:30 GMT
Exactly, we vote and elect only people who share our interest, goals. The matter in which politicians compromise is unacceptable to me.
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Post by The Resister on Jun 29, 2023 14:58:48 GMT
Exactly, we vote and elect only people who share our interest, goals. The matter in which politicians compromise is unacceptable to me. This may sound like throwing cold water on your premise, but it isn't. It's more of a call to action. It has been said that if voting could change things it would be illegal to vote. For a great part that is true. HOWEVER... we have a duty to vote. This crosses the line into strategies and is worthy of its own thread in the appropriate forum, but I want to take a few sentences to explain something. When we vote, especially if it is for a third party candidate, you can accomplish any of a number of things: 1) You can send a message to major candidates. If they are in a close race one side or the other may have to take up your issue (s) which otherwise may get no traction if they want the guarantee of the third party's votes and siphon them off 2) We have a duty to exhaust all of our non-violent political and legal avenues of redress so that we can say we did our due diligence if the government (or anyone else) challenges your Right to resist unconstitutional acts of tyranny and / or oppression 3) If you support a third party candidate, the votes are a kind of political barometer to the others who are of like mind. It says that we aren't alone; there are others who feel the way we do. It sends a message to mainstream that they may have to adopt part of our agenda OR face the possibility of a gradual erosion of their own power. I feel like we keep jumping the gun on this issue. The current canard is to keep repeating the mantra that we don't care if foreigners come here, provided they do it " legally." That, as stated, is code for citizenship. Make citizens out of the foreigners and they will vote in the very kind of government they fled AND punish the Posterity of the framers of the Constitution in the process. So, what is the anti-immigrant lobby trying to accomplish? Shore up support for the POLICE STATE? I mean, really, you don't need anyone's permission to exercise the unalienable Right to Liberty. Neither should we be obligated to extend the privileges of citizenship to guest workers and visitors. Again, what are you securing the border from?
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Post by The Resister on Jul 3, 2023 3:14:48 GMT
It appears this thread has run its course. There are a couple of things I wanted to say given that when I do start discussing this, I do get PMs and e mails. Most of it is not complimentary. A couple of things do need to be said, however. First, to the guy who said I was crazier than a sh!+house rat when saying that " illegal immigration" is not a crime. He proceeded to give me an example of why it is a crime. It isn't, so let me explain: In 2005 Bush streamlined the deportation process by focusing on the immigration related crimes instead of focusing on the civil violation of improper entry. Here it is, directly from Politifact: www.politifact.com/factchecks/2019/apr/05/julian-castro/fact-checking-julian-castro-bushs-2005-immigration/If someone eludes the authorities, it is a crime under the United States Code 18 USC 1001. If the authorities do not catch a person entering the U.S. then they cannot be charged with improper entry. They can be deported only IF they are picked up AFTER probable cause is established that may lead to a check of their status. When the Bush administration used the streamline process, they focused on the people they could catch that committed crimes. That way they could not become repeat offenders since they were charged with a crime instead of being deported through the civil process for improper entry. I've discussed WHY you don't want that to change. Do you need it repeated? If so, I can do it again. Since there have been no questions or comments, I can only summarize something important. This issue is important because it hinges on the question of WHERE we get our unalienable Rights from. Do they come from a Creator as per the Declaration of Independence OR are they given by a government god? That is the question before you. The Declaration was written before the concept of Americans citizens was thought about. Liberty is an unalienable Right. Liberty is an unalienable Right; citizenship is a privilege. We screwed ourselves with doctrines like globalism, " diversity," and the concept that people have some kind of right to impose upon others for the sole purpose of making us a " diverse" country (and that is code for NONWHITE!) We exchanged property Rights for government granted privileges (jokingly referred to as rights) and gave the government the power to forcibly change the face, values, heritage, and destiny of our country. The situation can only change with all of us creating communities within communities and allowing the system to eat itself alive. Get off the grid; go back to old technologies; become self sustaining and self sufficient. Boycott the system and only do business with those of like mind. You cannot build a government big enough to save you from yourself. And, if you deny Liberty to others, it will be denied to you. Learn the difference. Your are NOT going to make America great again with more laws. You need to focus on repealing the laws that changed America from when it was great. The only other way you change the balance is civil war. In order to do that you need people who are fully aware of our past, the original values, and our destiny. I'm not seeing them in Washington Wonderland, District of Corruption. Additionally, before we could have a civil war, the people MUST exhaust all of their nonviolent political and legal avenues of redress. I'm not seeing that happen. Any effort to change America without doing your due diligence will fail. God will not bless it; it cannot be supported by international law. That is the way it is.
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