The Bible Versus Jews

Of Abraham and his descendants, God said:

"3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed." Genesis 12: 3

That kept bothering me as I pondered what was going on in the United States. At both a personal and a national level we are subject to the blessings for obeying the Word of God and the curses. So, post WWII the United States was promoting the Word; churches were alive and yet... we weren't blessed as a nation. We were sending more missionaries out into the world for nation building. Early in our nation's history we had "In God We Trust" on our money, but it was taken off to appease a minority of humanists. But, after WWII, the phrase was put back on our money. Still, even after blessing the Jews and doing a lot of good, we were going downhill and suffering the curses.

Meanwhile, our former adversary in WWII, Japan, was beginning to do better than we were and they were blessed while we were cursed. The reason? The U.S. was beginning to reject God and helping a poseur people was not the way to blessed. By contrast, the Japanese became an ally to the United States (the place the founders believed to be the New Jerusalem) and they were blessed as we began to backslide and receive the curses.

That led me to EIGHT points that I want to bring out and let you see this for yourselves

1) The Bible does not say that Adam was the first "man" nor that all men descended from Adam. There were pre-Adamic men.
2) Cain was not the son of Adam and is not listed in his genealogy

3) When Cain was banished from the land of Nod, he said that "men would seek to slay" him. What men? According to mainstream, there would only have been Adam and Eve with Abel now gone, there would be no men. Right? Yet Cain left the Garden of Eden, went to Nod, took a wife and built a city

4) The Bible was written to, for and about a people called Israel in the Bible. It is not a universal Bible (See Genesis 5:1, Matt. 15 : 24 Romans 9: 4 and many other places in the Bible)

5) The word "Jew" is very misleading since it did not exist until recent years. It can be a geographic term (land of Judea); it can refer to people who adopted Judaism as a religion; it is sometimes used to refer to SOME descendants of Judah. It does not refer to a person being all three. Take Paul for example: Philippians 3:5 reveals that he was a Benjamite (therefore not of the tribe of Judah) and by geography Paul was a Roman (Acts 22: 28) so not a Jew by geography. Being part of Judah, Paul wasn't an Israelite; they are a different Kingdom. The point is, you have to differentiate between who is being talked about

6) Modern day "Jews" are not the literal descendants of Israelites; they are poseurs that were condemned by Jesus because they were Abraham's seed by marriage; however their father was Cain and Canaanites had NO inheritance with biblical Israel

7) Jesus left the old Jerusalem and said he would yet name New Jerusalem - which is now what we call the United States of America

8) Biblical Israel has been blind to their IDENTITY







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I noticed a lot of lurkers today, but nobody posting. It's kind of hard to have a discussion when you're talking to yourself. Soooo... we round the corner and answer the basic issue... the Jews.

In modern times the Jew is a Jew by biology. You can define it as race or any other term that you like, but bottom line: Jews identify by genetics. In Genesis 5: 1 the Bible declares that:

"This is the book of the generations of Adam."

From Genesis to Revelation the Holy Bible is about a people called Israel. When we go back to our starting point, we find that Abraham had a son named Isaac. When the Bible recounts the lineage of a bloodline, it says "the generations of." See Genesis 25: 12 for Abraham's descendants through Hagar. See verse 19 for Isaac. Isaac had a son called Jacob and Jacob was later renamed Israel. Jacob / Israel had twelve offspring and each of them became a tribe. This is an oversimplification, but those are the twelve tribes of Israel.

The twelve tribes had a long history and they fought many battles - sometimes even fighting each other. The twelve tribes formed two kingdoms or Houses (though that is still an oversimplification, but necessary to give you the gist of it.) The "Twelve" Tribes of Israel are:

Judah
Reuben
Simeon
Levi
Zebulun
Issachar
Dan
Gad
Asher
Naphtali
Ephraim
Benjamin
Manasseh (Wait 13? … didn't I say 12?)
Levi didn’t receive tribal territory like the other tribes. Also, Joseph’s sons were considered heads of their own tribes—both of which received an inheritance of land. In some lists, Joseph is counted as one of the 12 (Genesis 49; Deuteronomy 33). In others, Levi isn’t counted and Ephraim and Manasseh are considered distinct tribes.

Here’s the math:

12 tribes – 1 (Levi) – 1 (Joseph) + 1 (Ephraim) + 1 (Manasseh) = 12 tribes

The tribes split in two Houses: The House of Israel and the House of Judah. Even in the best interpretation the Jews could be no more than a relation to Judah. Israel and Judah fought different wars, were taken into captivity at different times, were released from captivity at different times and migrated to different locations. Israel is not exclusive to identifying God's chosen people. But we only wanted to identify the Jews.

Cain's descendants got intermarried into the Israelite bloodline by way of Judah when he had offspring by Shuah, the Canaanite. This has allowed them to claim a false identity to the point that the masses are fooled.If you REALLY want to know about the identity of the Jews, see this link (81 pages):

archive.org/details/2seedsgenesis315

If you REALLY, REALLY, REALLY want the facts, you need the real book (over 400 pages):

www.amazon.com/s?k=the+two+seeds+of+genesis+3+15&adgrpid=1335907834442501&hvadid=83494440392311&hvbmt=be&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=46016&hvnetw=o&hvqmt=e&hvtargid=kwd-83495041846274%3Aloc-190&hydadcr=2320_13466566&tag=mh0b-20&ref=pd_sl_2kfvt7caa5_e

Also:

anglo-saxonisrael.com/index.php/2023/03/18/part-1-two-bloodlines/

Before I nod off to bed, I will be happy to give you some of the answers. With respect to John 3: 16, let me explain what it meant when it said that God loved the world:

"36 Then Jesus sent the multitude away, and went into the house: and his disciples came unto him, saying, Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field. 37 He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man; 38 the field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;..." Matthew 13: 36 Read the entire chapter

God loved the world because his chosen were scattered in that world (field.) Take for example:

"James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting." James 1: 1

Again, what is in the Bible is written to, for and about a people called Israel. It has little meaning for others in the context of a covenant God since God's everlasting covenant was made with ONE people. For example:

"4 who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises; 5 whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen." Romans 9: 4

Imagine that you wrote an old U.S. Snail Mail letter to your family and at the end, you said I love you all. Could someone use that letter to mean that you loved everyone and your letter applied to the whole world?




God did not abandon His people. Check out all the internal links of this thread to see where the New Jerusalem is.

Biblical Israel, as a nation, gets along well with a lot of foreign countries. ONE of the promises to Abram (Abraham) and his descendants was:

"And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed." Genesis 12: 3

Those who bless biblical Israel will be blessed. How many nations have prospered by blessing us and respecting the our God even though they did not fall for false prophets and try to become Israel?



The term Anti-Semitic is an emotion laden buzz word that is used to discourage honest discourse. Again, in a best case scenario, some "Jews" could claim to be Israelites by way of Judah; however, it must be noted that in Genesis 38: 2 Judah had children by the Canaanite, Shuah, and those are the children of the devil (see John chapter 8 - especially verses 32 - 44.) If they are religious Jews, they have rejected the God of the Bible. When the Israelis want something, they don't bow down to their God and pray for it. They get it from the United States. We give them everything from toothpicks to intercontinental ballistic missiles. What do we get in return? Liberals in Washington Wonderland, District of Corruption advocating abortion, miscegenation, gun control and global socialism... and what else? How is that a blessing to ANYONE?

Being a Semite, anyone that calls me names like Anti-Semitic only illustrates that they are ignorant, dishonest or stupid. You'll have to ask them which it is.

This thread has been accessed by over a hundred people. Still no feedback from the newbies. I have yet another link for those who had rather read than watch videos:

theserapeum.com/100-reasons-israelites-are-white-100-proofs-the-israelites-were-white/

I always like to debate this subject so when I read in other forums how one guru or another claims to be able to deliver the death blow to the view that Whites are Israelites, I have to respond. The first nail that the naysayers want to put in the coffin is to point out that, unless one of Noah's offspring was a Canaanite, then the theory don't hold water (the pun is mine, of course.) Well... my personal view:

The original position on this, as espoused by Wesley Swift, who made this interpretation about Whites so well known (along with Bertrand Comparet), did not believe in a world wide flood. As you know, I don't agree with every statement or every position that is espoused by the links I provide. No two people that study the Bible agree on all points. I agree with the basic position of Swift and Comparet:

newensign.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Were_All_The_People_Drowned.pdf


Science confirms this basic position:

ncse.ngo/yes-noahs-flood-may-have-happened-not-over-whole-earth

It should be remembered that the Bible was written by men, inspired of God and subject to their limited knowledge of the world. Besides, why would God destroy the United States when no Adamic man had ever been there? Check out the links.