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Post by johndrake on Mar 6, 2024 4:40:15 GMT
For those new to the board, we need to cover some history and then you will hear the story of something that is about to change this board and the lives of a couple of people from here on out.
The Resister took to the discussion boards a little over a decade ago from what research shows. After some years of gaining experience and making sacrifices he embarked on a journey to inform others and to answer any questions about that which he had actually done. It wouldn't be long until he crossed paths with some people claiming to be LEOs and the SHTF. Those people tried to insinuate that the Resister was a criminal - and worse. He responded and even went tit for tat with one of the posters. It rubbed that poster the wrong way and he took it personally. For over a decade the Resister has been followed by a stalker. When his friends reached out for help and someone to maintain the board I jumped in to end the stalking and aggravation.
The Resister was asked to always put Liquid Reigns on ignore and agree not to read his posts. He did that recently with the exception of one post that is a privacy rights violation. That was done at my behest. When the Resister first went onto boards he made the ignorant mistake of putting his personal information on discussion boards not realizing that it would be permanent. Fortunately, much of that information is deleted as I can locate it. After the Resister left the initial sites he made the most blunders on Liquid Reigns would scour the discussion boards, register under other names, and gaslight the Resister. This individual spent over a decade with a campaign of harassment and intimidation. Looking at it Liquid Reigns under one of his assumed Internet names initiated an uncivil exchange by casting aspersions on the Resister and mischaracterizing his past. The Resister countered with a barrage of counter accusations to show Liquid what it felt like. It ended with both men being banned on one site, but replaying itself out many times on just about every discussion board that can be located on the Internet.
The net result of this action manifested itself in occurrences of vandalism and of a shooting into the Resisters home following one of the back and forth exchanges. In another instance a family cat was killed the day after one of the back and forth exchanges that became serious. If Liquid Reigns didn't commit the acts he was doomed to be blamed for them as Reigns was posting personal information that the average person would not have found for a lack of skill and interest. If you do a deep enough dive there is nothing personal on the Internet. By the same token if you have a personal problem you need to take that problem up with the individual. When one of these exchanges culminated in a fight between a person living a few miles from the Resister and that individual claiming to be Liquid Reigns due to the controversy it almost became a criminal matter. That was when an admin here asked for my help. After spending a few weeks - perhaps a couple of months or so it weighed on my mind that this relationship has to come to a head.
As the admin here I am prohibited from giving the Resister the personal info of Liquid Reigns. Aside from that if you knew how angry the Resister had gotten and what he can do in a fight you would never consider giving him the advantage Liquid Reigns has had over the past decade or so. Having been in touch with other admins who have suffered the chaos and tension between these two we have mostly agreed on the options of handling the matter. I'm going to start having the posts that give up the Resister's personal information as I find it removed with the help of other discussion board admins. Other admins are going to be on the lookout for Liquid Reigns and his stalking. It would be unfair to both men not to allow them to have one final opportunity to face each other. Presupposing that Liquid Reigns is not afraid of the Resister then we have to assume he wants something from him. The Resister wants a face to face. Liquid Reigns has done his share of trash talk and banter aimed at a physical confrontation. It should be that Liquid Reigns make the trip to meet the Resister and it is unfair that Liquid Reigns has the advantage of knowing what the Resister looks like. My decision is that the two should meet in Missouri on neutral ground. Reigns can identify himself to me and I will be able to recognize both men. That assures us no ambush will take place. They can go to a quiet spot and work this out one way or another. If that is unacceptable to either party it will tell us all we need to know. In any event Liquid Reigns is going to find that his campaign of harassment and intimidation will be harder to sustain. And a personal note to Liquid from me.
Look at my board name. Think about that last name. Think about it in the context of yourself. What does it mean to you? You must understand you will no longer be able to get away with what you were doing as you aren't invisible to all of us. There is a time to let things go or follow through. Where you go with this is up to you. What you do will not feel so good when it is being done to you. It is time to give the Resister and his family a rest from your actions.
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Post by The Resister on Mar 6, 2024 5:24:51 GMT
Thanks for the heads up. All this time I was unaware of what you were doing. I guess you were more effective by keeping me out of the loop. I can travel to Missouri. If that guy had rather come here so he can take a chance on having something to crow about, there are plenty of places we can go to where nobody will butt in. I've never known what all this was about. Still a little in the dark here. From what you're saying we got into it long before I remember meeting the guy. He used too many board names, and as you saw from the last board I posted on, I draw the trolls out the moment I walk in the door.
There is no need to go down Memory Lane and bring all that other crap on this board. We all know what is going on. Stalking someone and posting personal information just because he knows a few things (and some gained through questionable methods) is not something I feel an honorable thing nor the way I would confront someone if I had a problem with them. If he "backs up" what he says, he will have no problem arranging a meet. His only other alternative is to get the Hell off my back.
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Post by liquidmicro on Mar 6, 2024 6:28:46 GMT
For those new to the board, we need to cover some history and then you will hear the story of something that is about to change this board and the lives of a couple of people from here on out. The Resister took to the discussion boards a little over a decade ago from what research shows. After some years of gaining experience and making sacrifices he embarked on a journey to inform others and to answer any questions about that which he had actually done. It wouldn't be long until he crossed paths with some people claiming to be LEOs and the SHTF. Those people tried to insinuate that the Resister was a criminal - and worse. He responded and even went tit for tat with one of the posters. It rubbed that poster the wrong way and he took it personally. For over a decade the Resister has been followed by a stalker. When his friends reached out for help and someone to maintain the board I jumped in to end the stalking and aggravation. FYI, I'm not Sarge from prepperforums.net. Never been a poster on that site. PoliticalForums.com is where we crossed paths. He whined to moderators and had me banned for challenging his claims and criticizing his comments. I was a member there since Sept 2013, resister registered there Sept 2015, he got me banned in May 2016, and he was banned in Mar 2018 of his own accord. I haven't followed him nor have I stalked him. I'm not the one who put his info on line, he did that himself. The Resister was asked to always put Liquid Reigns on ignore and agree not to read his posts. He did that recently with the exception of one post that is a privacy rights violation. That was done at my behest. When the Resister first went onto boards he made the ignorant mistake of putting his personal information on discussion boards not realizing that it would be permanent. Fortunately, much of that information is deleted as I can locate it. After the Resister left the initial sites he made the most blunders on Liquid Reigns would scour the discussion boards, register under other names, and gaslight the Resister. This individual spent over a decade with a campaign of harassment and intimidation. Looking at it Liquid Reigns under one of his assumed Internet names initiated an uncivil exchange by casting aspersions on the Resister and mischaracterizing his past. The Resister countered with a barrage of counter accusations to show Liquid what it felt like. It ended with both men being banned on one site, but replaying itself out many times on just about every discussion board that can be located on the Internet. All the information is archived on the net. How is attempting to discuss issues on forums harassing? Can he not handle criticism? If not, then he should not be on the forums. What he wants is a soapbox to preach, he doesn't want discussion, you saw that on The Free Speech Forum. You even had the opportunity to criticize my comments or to discuss via the topic. What internet name did I use to cast aspersions on him or even gaslight him? What about his past have I mischaracterized? Mischaracterizations were done by himself, especially when he claims to have been in the military when he never was, even you stated he admitted to you he never served. The net result of this action manifested itself in occurrences of vandalism and of a shooting into the Resisters home following one of the back and forth exchanges. In another instance a family cat was killed the day after one of the back and forth exchanges that became serious. If Liquid Reigns didn't commit the acts he was doomed to be blamed for them as Reigns was posting personal information that the average person would not have found for a lack of skill and interest. If you do a deep enough dive there is nothing personal on the Internet. By the same token if you have a personal problem you need to take that problem up with the individual. When one of these exchanges culminated in a fight between a person living a few miles from the Resister and that individual claiming to be Liquid Reigns due to the controversy it almost became a criminal matter. That was when an admin here asked for my help. After spending a few weeks - perhaps a couple of months or so it weighed on my mind that this relationship has to come to a head. Kinda hard for me to vandalize his property, shoot into his house, or kill his cat when I live in California. I never posted his address, again he did that himself on the outdoorstrader.com forums where I was never a member, he was banned from that forum due to his own volition. He needs to look a little closer to home as to who is "stalking" him. Nothing I have done has come even close to becoming a criminal matter. If he can't handle discussion forums, he shouldn't be on them. As the admin here I am prohibited from giving the Resister the personal info of Liquid Reigns. Aside from that if you knew how angry the Resister had gotten and what he can do in a fight you would never consider giving him the advantage Liquid Reigns has had over the past decade or so. Having been in touch with other admins who have suffered the chaos and tension between these two we have mostly agreed on the options of handling the matter. I'm going to start having the posts that give up the Resister's personal information as I find it removed with the help of other discussion board admins. Other admins are going to be on the lookout for Liquid Reigns and his stalking. It would be unfair to both men not to allow them to have one final opportunity to face each other. Presupposing that Liquid Reigns is not afraid of the Resister then we have to assume he wants something from him. The Resister wants a face to face. Liquid Reigns has done his share of trash talk and banter aimed at a physical confrontation. It should be that Liquid Reigns make the trip to meet the Resister and it is unfair that Liquid Reigns has the advantage of knowing what the Resister looks like. My decision is that the two should meet in Missouri on neutral ground. Reigns can identify himself to me and I will be able to recognize both men. That assures us no ambush will take place. They can go to a quiet spot and work this out one way or another. If that is unacceptable to either party it will tell us all we need to know. In any event Liquid Reigns is going to find that his campaign of harassment and intimidation will be harder to sustain. And a personal note to Liquid from me. The only personal info you have is what I gave you, single White Father of 2 Daughters and ex-Military, he already has my email address and knows I was in the military. Look at my board name. Think about that last name. Think about it in the context of yourself. What does it mean to you? You must understand you will no longer be able to get away with what you were doing as you aren't invisible to all of us. There is a time to let things go or follow through. Where you go with this is up to you. What you do will not feel so good when it is being done to you. It is time to give the Resister and his family a rest from your actions. What am I suppose to get from your last name? Drake? A male duck? A mayfly used for fishing bait? What are you trying to say? You have my IP address, so does he. So am I in California, or Washington as my provider uses 3 different stations. I hope what you are doing does do some good. I hope it does change his life for the better. |
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Post by professorx on Mar 6, 2024 13:54:09 GMT
For those new to the board, we need to cover some history and then you will hear the story of something that is about to change this board and the lives of a couple of people from here on out. The Resister took to the discussion boards a little over a decade ago from what research shows. After some years of gaining experience and making sacrifices he embarked on a journey to inform others and to answer any questions about that which he had actually done. It wouldn't be long until he crossed paths with some people claiming to be LEOs and the SHTF. Those people tried to insinuate that the Resister was a criminal - and worse. He responded and even went tit for tat with one of the posters. It rubbed that poster the wrong way and he took it personally. For over a decade the Resister has been followed by a stalker. When his friends reached out for help and someone to maintain the board I jumped in to end the stalking and aggravation. FYI, I'm not Sarge from prepperforums.net. Never been a poster on that site. PoliticalForums.com is where we crossed paths. He whined to moderators and had me banned for challenging his claims and criticizing his comments. I was a member there since Sept 2013, resister registered there Sept 2015, he got me banned in May 2016, and he was banned in Mar 2018 of his own accord. I haven't followed him nor have I stalked him. I'm not the one who put his info on line, he did that himself. The Resister was asked to always put Liquid Reigns on ignore and agree not to read his posts. He did that recently with the exception of one post that is a privacy rights violation. That was done at my behest. When the Resister first went onto boards he made the ignorant mistake of putting his personal information on discussion boards not realizing that it would be permanent. Fortunately, much of that information is deleted as I can locate it. After the Resister left the initial sites he made the most blunders on Liquid Reigns would scour the discussion boards, register under other names, and gaslight the Resister. This individual spent over a decade with a campaign of harassment and intimidation. Looking at it Liquid Reigns under one of his assumed Internet names initiated an uncivil exchange by casting aspersions on the Resister and mischaracterizing his past. The Resister countered with a barrage of counter accusations to show Liquid what it felt like. It ended with both men being banned on one site, but replaying itself out many times on just about every discussion board that can be located on the Internet. All the information is archived on the net. How is attempting to discuss issues on forums harassing? Can he not handle criticism? If not, then he should not be on the forums. What he wants is a soapbox to preach, he doesn't want discussion, you saw that on The Free Speech Forum. You even had the opportunity to criticize my comments or to discuss via the topic. What internet name did I use to cast aspersions on him or even gaslight him? What about his past have I mischaracterized? Mischaracterizations were done by himself, especially when he claims to have been in the military when he never was, even you stated he admitted to you he never served. The net result of this action manifested itself in occurrences of vandalism and of a shooting into the Resisters home following one of the back and forth exchanges. In another instance a family cat was killed the day after one of the back and forth exchanges that became serious. If Liquid Reigns didn't commit the acts he was doomed to be blamed for them as Reigns was posting personal information that the average person would not have found for a lack of skill and interest. If you do a deep enough dive there is nothing personal on the Internet. By the same token if you have a personal problem you need to take that problem up with the individual. When one of these exchanges culminated in a fight between a person living a few miles from the Resister and that individual claiming to be Liquid Reigns due to the controversy it almost became a criminal matter. That was when an admin here asked for my help. After spending a few weeks - perhaps a couple of months or so it weighed on my mind that this relationship has to come to a head. Kinda hard for me to vandalize his property, shoot into his house, or kill his cat when I live in California. I never posted his address, again he did that himself on the outdoorstrader.com forums where I was never a member, he was banned from that forum due to his own volition. He needs to look a little closer to home as to who is "stalking" him. Nothing I have done has come even close to becoming a criminal matter. If he can't handle discussion forums, he shouldn't be on them. As the admin here I am prohibited from giving the Resister the personal info of Liquid Reigns. Aside from that if you knew how angry the Resister had gotten and what he can do in a fight you would never consider giving him the advantage Liquid Reigns has had over the past decade or so. Having been in touch with other admins who have suffered the chaos and tension between these two we have mostly agreed on the options of handling the matter. I'm going to start having the posts that give up the Resister's personal information as I find it removed with the help of other discussion board admins. Other admins are going to be on the lookout for Liquid Reigns and his stalking. It would be unfair to both men not to allow them to have one final opportunity to face each other. Presupposing that Liquid Reigns is not afraid of the Resister then we have to assume he wants something from him. The Resister wants a face to face. Liquid Reigns has done his share of trash talk and banter aimed at a physical confrontation. It should be that Liquid Reigns make the trip to meet the Resister and it is unfair that Liquid Reigns has the advantage of knowing what the Resister looks like. My decision is that the two should meet in Missouri on neutral ground. Reigns can identify himself to me and I will be able to recognize both men. That assures us no ambush will take place. They can go to a quiet spot and work this out one way or another. If that is unacceptable to either party it will tell us all we need to know. In any event Liquid Reigns is going to find that his campaign of harassment and intimidation will be harder to sustain. And a personal note to Liquid from me. The only personal info you have is what I gave you, single White Father of 2 Daughters and ex-Military, he already has my email address and knows I was in the military. Look at my board name. Think about that last name. Think about it in the context of yourself. What does it mean to you? You must understand you will no longer be able to get away with what you were doing as you aren't invisible to all of us. There is a time to let things go or follow through. Where you go with this is up to you. What you do will not feel so good when it is being done to you. It is time to give the Resister and his family a rest from your actions. What am I suppose to get from your last name? Drake? A male duck? A mayfly used for fishing bait? What are you trying to say? You have my IP address, so does he. So am I in California, or Washington as my provider uses 3 different stations. I hope what you are doing does do some good. I hope it does change his life for the better. What you are attempting to do here won't work. I have read what went on here and what went on at the DTT board when you used your influence and lies to con that lib into thinking I was The Resister. I even offered the head guy on that site the opportunity to face time with me so that he would know that we were not one and the same. Since you posted pics of The Resister on that site he couldn't possibly think we could remotely be the same person. You prevailed upon them and insisted that we were. No matter. When they had the Liberty Forum site we showed that the head guy from DTT used multiple sockpuppets. If The Resister had your e mail address or knew how to find you he would have done so. Criticism is one thing. Stalking and harassment is another. You were able to exploit some things in the past. Today you are being held accountable. I think it is highly immoral and dishonest for you to come here with that lie that The Resister did not serve in the military. He did. That technique where you make that false claim he did not is a little old. Having been in his house and witnessed the dd214 along with pictures pretty much convinces me. To the balance of your post you say you do not know John. Then you say he admitted to you he never served. You know John Drake or you do not? When you have to lace your posts with calling people a moron and going over the same points over and over it is not discussion. I also agree that when you posted personal information that others were not looking for and most people do not do that deep a search for - you became the sole proximate cause of some of the acts perpetrated against him. They all happened within hours of nasty posts you did. Because of you I got banned on a couple of sites. And if it is not harassment of what use is going over the same lie over and over that you post about past military experience? What is it to you and what does it have to do with the many posts the two of you participated on with regards to immigration? At least all of that is no longer a subject for debate. Not here. The name calling and the lies are subject to a response. There is a day of reckoning. 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Post by liquidmicro on Mar 6, 2024 15:36:22 GMT
FYI, I'm not Sarge from prepperforums.net. Never been a poster on that site. PoliticalForums.com is where we crossed paths. He whined to moderators and had me banned for challenging his claims and criticizing his comments. I was a member there since Sept 2013, resister registered there Sept 2015, he got me banned in May 2016, and he was banned in Mar 2018 of his own accord. I haven't followed him nor have I stalked him. I'm not the one who put his info on line, he did that himself. All the information is archived on the net. How is attempting to discuss issues on forums harassing? Can he not handle criticism? If not, then he should not be on the forums. What he wants is a soapbox to preach, he doesn't want discussion, you saw that on The Free Speech Forum. You even had the opportunity to criticize my comments or to discuss via the topic. What internet name did I use to cast aspersions on him or even gaslight him? What about his past have I mischaracterized? Mischaracterizations were done by himself, especially when he claims to have been in the military when he never was, even you stated he admitted to you he never served. Kinda hard for me to vandalize his property, shoot into his house, or kill his cat when I live in California. I never posted his address, again he did that himself on the outdoorstrader.com forums where I was never a member, he was banned from that forum due to his own volition. He needs to look a little closer to home as to who is "stalking" him. Nothing I have done has come even close to becoming a criminal matter. If he can't handle discussion forums, he shouldn't be on them. The only personal info you have is what I gave you, single White Father of 2 Daughters and ex-Military, he already has my email address and knows I was in the military. What am I suppose to get from your last name? Drake? A male duck? A mayfly used for fishing bait? What are you trying to say? You have my IP address, so does he. So am I in California, or Washington as my provider uses 3 different stations. I hope what you are doing does do some good. I hope it does change his life for the better. What you are attempting to do here won't work. I have read what went on here and what went on at the DTT board when you used your influence and lies to con that lib into thinking I was The Resister. I even offered the head guy on that site the opportunity to face time with me so that he would know that we were not one and the same. Since you posted pics of The Resister on that site he couldn't possibly think we could remotely be the same person. You prevailed upon them and insisted that we were. No matter. When they had the Liberty Forum site we showed that the head guy from DTT used multiple sockpuppets. If The Resister had your e mail address or knew how to find you he would have done so. Criticism is one thing. Stalking and harassment is another. You were able to exploit some things in the past. Today you are being held accountable. I think it is highly immoral and dishonest for you to come here with that lie that The Resister did not serve in the military. He did. That technique where you make that false claim he did not is a little old. Having been in his house and witnessed the dd214 along with pictures pretty much convinces me. To the balance of your post you say you do not know John. Then you say he admitted to you he never served. You know John Drake or you do not? When you have to lace your posts with calling people a moron and going over the same points over and over it is not discussion. I also agree that when you posted personal information that others were not looking for and most people do not do that deep a search for - you became the sole proximate cause of some of the acts perpetrated against him. They all happened within hours of nasty posts you did. Because of you I got banned on a couple of sites. And if it is not harassment of what use is going over the same lie over and over that you post about past military experience? What is it to you and what does it have to do with the many posts the two of you participated on with regards to immigration? At least all of that is no longer a subject for debate. Not here. The name calling and the lies are subject to a response. There is a day of reckoning. For me. For you. That is my input. I'm not attempting to do anything here other then defend myself and deal with your issues. I had no influence at DTT, nor did I lie or con any lib into thinking you were the resister. Your arguments there and your style of discussion was identical, they picked up on it and the rest was history. I didn't post pics of resister, I linked to his youtube channel where he made himself public. Your Liberty Forum didn't show anything other than you can't handle discussion forums. You're right, stalking and harassing is one thing, one to which you should look a lot closer to home on. Obviously over his life he has created some enemies, especially if he talks in person the way he does on line. I live in California, I don't visit the east coast, I don't have family on the east coast. I'm being held accountable? My techniques? I don't know "John", I have an inclination as to who he is. X never served is what I said that "John", provided "John" is who I think he is, told me that X admitted to him that he never served. The story X put out that I read was he was in an accident on his way to his reporting and then never ended up going in the military. Me calling him a moron, is that any different then him calling people out to "kick their ass" over "fighting words"? Spare me. When it is repeated to him by more people than I can count that his claims are factually wrong or that his legal interpretations are inane, yet he keeps repeating them over and over, what does that tell you? I didn't post personal information of X, he did that himself. I linked to discussions in which he himself put his info out. Any acts perpetrated against him, are results of his own volition. Your accusations of cause and effect fall on deaf ears. You got banned on sites due to your own postings. I don't like those that claim Stolen Valor. As to immigration, its a discussion topic, one I enjoy, the other is US History. |
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Post by professorx on Mar 6, 2024 17:08:12 GMT
What you are attempting to do here won't work. I have read what went on here and what went on at the DTT board when you used your influence and lies to con that lib into thinking I was The Resister. I even offered the head guy on that site the opportunity to face time with me so that he would know that we were not one and the same. Since you posted pics of The Resister on that site he couldn't possibly think we could remotely be the same person. You prevailed upon them and insisted that we were. No matter. When they had the Liberty Forum site we showed that the head guy from DTT used multiple sockpuppets. If The Resister had your e mail address or knew how to find you he would have done so. Criticism is one thing. Stalking and harassment is another. You were able to exploit some things in the past. Today you are being held accountable. I think it is highly immoral and dishonest for you to come here with that lie that The Resister did not serve in the military. He did. That technique where you make that false claim he did not is a little old. Having been in his house and witnessed the dd214 along with pictures pretty much convinces me. To the balance of your post you say you do not know John. Then you say he admitted to you he never served. You know John Drake or you do not? When you have to lace your posts with calling people a moron and going over the same points over and over it is not discussion. I also agree that when you posted personal information that others were not looking for and most people do not do that deep a search for - you became the sole proximate cause of some of the acts perpetrated against him. They all happened within hours of nasty posts you did. Because of you I got banned on a couple of sites. And if it is not harassment of what use is going over the same lie over and over that you post about past military experience? What is it to you and what does it have to do with the many posts the two of you participated on with regards to immigration? At least all of that is no longer a subject for debate. Not here. The name calling and the lies are subject to a response. There is a day of reckoning. For me. For you. That is my input. I'm not attempting to do anything here other then defend myself and deal with your issues. I had no influence at DTT, nor did I lie or con any lib into thinking you were the resister. Your arguments there and your style of discussion was identical, they picked up on it and the rest was history. I didn't post pics of resister, I linked to his youtube channel where he made himself public. Your Liberty Forum didn't show anything other than you can't handle discussion forums. You're right, stalking and harassing is one thing, one to which you should look a lot closer to home on. Obviously over his life he has created some enemies, especially if he talks in person the way he does on line. I live in California, I don't visit the east coast, I don't have family on the east coast. I'm being held accountable? My techniques? I don't know "John", I have an inclination as to who he is. Jimmy never served is what I said that "John", provided "John" is who I think he is, told me that Jimmy admitted to him that he never served. The story Jimmy put out that I read was he was in an accident on his way to his reporting and then never ended up going in the military. Me calling him a moron, is that any different then him calling people out to "kick their ass" over "fighting words"? Spare me. When it is repeated to him by more people than I can count that his claims are factually wrong or that his legal interpretations are inane, yet he keeps repeating them over and over, what does that tell you? I didn't post personal information of Jimmy, he did that himself. I linked to discussions in which he himself put his info out. Any acts perpetrated against him, are results of his own volition. Your accusations of cause and effect fall on deaf ears. You got banned on sites due to your own postings. I don't like those that claim Stolen Valor. As to immigration, its a discussion topic, one I enjoy, the other is US History. You posted as treedoc on DTT and assured the head guy that I was Resister. That was the reason for the ban and if Liberty Forum had not been taken down by Carl who built that board we could revisit that as there was a long debate involving myself, Resister, and some people from DTT though I did show that three of those posting were the head of DTT. Having known Resister for several decades there is an answer about his military service. He can answer that for you. Be careful. You are on the verge of having your posts moderated by the admin. No personal information is allowed in the posts. We can only refer to Carl because it is a dead board by someone that nobody knows and never posted anything under that name. You better go back and ask that guy the reason I was banned on DTT. It was for having multiple accts. I did not have multiple accts. If you repeatedly call people names and post misinformation and then tell the guy you can kick his ass then it amounts to fighting words. In a face to face I could see myself getting in a fight over that. Given the same set of circumstances you would do the same thing if you really think you can kick someones ass. If you enjoy the topic of immigration you should try to learn something about it. |
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Post by liquidmicro on Mar 6, 2024 17:40:02 GMT
I'm not attempting to do anything here other then defend myself and deal with your issues. I had no influence at DTT, nor did I lie or con any lib into thinking you were the resister. Your arguments there and your style of discussion was identical, they picked up on it and the rest was history. I didn't post pics of resister, I linked to his youtube channel where he made himself public. Your Liberty Forum didn't show anything other than you can't handle discussion forums. You're right, stalking and harassing is one thing, one to which you should look a lot closer to home on. Obviously over his life he has created some enemies, especially if he talks in person the way he does on line. I live in California, I don't visit the east coast, I don't have family on the east coast. I'm being held accountable? My techniques? I don't know "John", I have an inclination as to who he is. Jimmy never served is what I said that "John", provided "John" is who I think he is, told me that Jimmy admitted to him that he never served. The story Jimmy put out that I read was he was in an accident on his way to his reporting and then never ended up going in the military. Me calling him a moron, is that any different then him calling people out to "kick their ass" over "fighting words"? Spare me. When it is repeated to him by more people than I can count that his claims are factually wrong or that his legal interpretations are inane, yet he keeps repeating them over and over, what does that tell you? I didn't post personal information of Jimmy, he did that himself. I linked to discussions in which he himself put his info out. Any acts perpetrated against him, are results of his own volition. Your accusations of cause and effect fall on deaf ears. You got banned on sites due to your own postings. I don't like those that claim Stolen Valor. As to immigration, its a discussion topic, one I enjoy, the other is US History. You posted as treedoc on DTT and assured the head guy that I was Resister. That was the reason for the ban and if Liberty Forum had not been taken down by Carl who built that board we could revisit that as there was a long debate involving myself, Resister, and some people from DTT though I did show that three of those posting were the head of DTT. Having known Resister for several decades there is an answer about his military service. He can answer that for you. Be careful. You are on the verge of having your posts moderated by the admin. No personal information is allowed in the posts. We can only refer to Carl because it is a dead board by someone that nobody knows and never posted anything under that name. You better go back and ask that guy the reason I was banned on DTT. It was for having multiple accts. I did not have multiple accts. If you repeatedly call people names and post misinformation and then tell the guy you can kick his ass then it amounts to fighting words. In a face to face I could see myself getting in a fight over that. Given the same set of circumstances you would do the same thing if you really think you can kick someones ass. If you enjoy the topic of immigration you should try to learn something about it. I was Treedoc on DTT, don't deny it. Imaginethat figured it out on his own, as I stated your arguments and responses were identical, he was actually standing up for you against other mods there who wanted you banned from the get go. You didn't show anything on Liberty Forum (Yamcha's forum), let alone sock puppets. Liberty Lobby which is what I think you mean, is still active: libertylobbydebate.boards.net/If my posts need to be moderated regarding a name, by all means change the name to the correct moniker, I have no care about that, from here on out I'll use the moniker if it makes you feel better. I don't care why you were banned on DTT to be honest, that forum went to shit with Biden lovers that are nothing more than ideological clowns. So because I responded to being called out by resister, and told him any time he comes to Sacramento, to let me know and I would meet him at the airport amounts to me being the aggressor? You either don't have a clue or you are simply misconstruing reality to fit your narrative. I know plenty about immigration law. |
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Post by liquidmicro on Mar 6, 2024 22:10:06 GMT
I was Treedoc on DTT, don't deny it. Imaginethat figured it out on his own, as I stated your arguments and responses were identical, he was actually standing up for you against other mods there who wanted you banned from the get go. You didn't show anything on Liberty Forum (Yamcha's forum), let alone sock puppets. Liberty Lobby which is what I think you mean, is still active: libertylobbydebate.boards.net/If my posts need to be moderated regarding a name, by all means change the name to the correct moniker, I have no care about that, from here on out I'll use the moniker if it makes you feel better. I don't care why you were banned on DTT to be honest, that forum went to shit with Biden lovers that are nothing more than ideological clowns. So because I responded to being called out by resister, and told him any time he comes to Sacramento, to let me know and I would meet him at the airport amounts to me being the aggressor? You either don't have a clue or you are simply misconstruing reality to fit your narrative. I know plenty about immigration law. What absolute dishonesty! The board you refer to is NOT the one that Yamcha built before. He nuked that one and we have references to that many times here. AND you didn't challenge the truthfulness of that back then. So, you're grasping at straws. Let's cut the shit short: I'm sick and tired of you going all over the Internet claiming that I wasn't in the military AND now claiming that someone else told you that or ... wait John told you that. I will ask him what he said. That's about as low as you can go. When you have a question, you don't need to ask all these other people that never laid eyes on me. You need to ask me. I'm going to explain this to you one time and this will never be revisited. WHEN I got involved in the Militia of Georgia I explained my experience to them and told them what they were getting if they voted for me. My opponents were (or would have been) a guy we call Troll, another man who was proven to be a Confidential Informant for the GBI and a man whose name escapes me at the moment. Troll should have won the election, but bowed at the nomination process and endorsed me saying that I was the man for the job. His endorsement got me past the other guys in a landslide because Troll left the Army Rangers to help organize the Militia of Georgia. My experience is that I did my part at the ripe old age of 17 and came home without ever experiencing actual combat or things that may merit mention. There is no stolen valor because I can show you an Honorable Discharge and a DD214. That did not qualify me, in my mind, to be the person everybody thought would lead the charge if the SHTF. For that reason, Troll agreed to be that man if we had to face the ultimate decision and go into a battle. Now, what about the rest of the story? LATER - several years LATER after my discharge, I decided I wanted to go into the Army and try to become an Army Ranger. I only had weeks to do that because I would be too old the next year. I was all ready to go... paperwork was in, physical completed, etc. All that was left was to get sworn in. The day after Thanksgiving that year I was in a car accident and died for a short period. Having shattered my elbow (among other things) it meant that my hopes of going back in were over. Still, unless someone gives me credit for S.P.I.K.E. and having gone to a couple of mercenary schools back then, I was not qualified to be the guy leading the troops up a hill. As the C.O. in the militia I would be an administrative functionary... much like Trump will be the Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces, but has never been in the military NOR will he be leading the charge up a hill. I was honest, forthcoming and now you have the facts. Your parents would have had to sign for you to join at 17 in the 1970's, even in the 1980's when I joined at 17. I could careless about your MoG story. You at least backed up what I understood of you, you were in a wreck and didn't join the Army, except I heard it was the Merchant Marines since you liked to claim you were affiliated with the Seabees. Merchant marines were civilians mariners with federal and civilian ships, not actual service members. The only Merchant Marines entitled for VA Benefits are the ones that served from 1941 to 1945. |
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Post by johndrake on Mar 6, 2024 23:03:36 GMT
I was Treedoc on DTT, don't deny it. Imaginethat figured it out on his own, as I stated your arguments and responses were identical, he was actually standing up for you against other mods there who wanted you banned from the get go. You didn't show anything on Liberty Forum (Yamcha's forum), let alone sock puppets. Liberty Lobby which is what I think you mean, is still active: libertylobbydebate.boards.net/If my posts need to be moderated regarding a name, by all means change the name to the correct moniker, I have no care about that, from here on out I'll use the moniker if it makes you feel better. I don't care why you were banned on DTT to be honest, that forum went to shit with Biden lovers that are nothing more than ideological clowns. So because I responded to being called out by resister, and told him any time he comes to Sacramento, to let me know and I would meet him at the airport amounts to me being the aggressor? You either don't have a clue or you are simply misconstruing reality to fit your narrative. I know plenty about immigration law. What absolute dishonesty! The board you refer to is NOT the one that Yamcha built before. He nuked that one and we have references to that many times here. AND you didn't challenge the truthfulness of that back then. So, you're grasping at straws. Let's cut the shit short: I'm sick and tired of you going all over the Internet claiming that I wasn't in the military AND now claiming that someone else told you that or ... wait John told you that. I will ask him what he said. That's about as low as you can go. When you have a question, you don't need to ask all these other people that never laid eyes on me. You need to ask me. I'm going to explain this to you one time and this will never be revisited. WHEN I got involved in the Militia of Georgia I explained my experience to them and told them what they were getting if they voted for me. My opponents were (or would have been) a guy we call Troll, another man who was proven to be a Confidential Informant for the GBI and a man whose name escapes me at the moment. Troll should have won the election, but bowed at the nomination process and endorsed me saying that I was the man for the job. His endorsement got me past the other guys in a landslide because Troll left the Army Rangers to help organize the Militia of Georgia. My experience is that I did my part at the ripe old age of 17 and came home without ever experiencing actual combat or things that may merit mention. There is no stolen valor because I can show you an Honorable Discharge and a DD214. That did not qualify me, in my mind, to be the person everybody thought would lead the charge if the SHTF. For that reason, Troll agreed to be that man if we had to face the ultimate decision and go into a battle. Now, what about the rest of the story? LATER - several years LATER after my discharge, I decided I wanted to go into the Army and try to become an Army Ranger. I only had weeks to do that because I would be too old the next year. I was all ready to go... paperwork was in, physical completed, etc. All that was left was to get sworn in. The day after Thanksgiving that year I was in a car accident and died for a short period. Having shattered my elbow (among other things) it meant that my hopes of going back in were over. Still, unless someone gives me credit for S.P.I.K.E. and having gone to a couple of mercenary schools back then, I was not qualified to be the guy leading the troops up a hill. As the C.O. in the militia I would be an administrative functionary... much like Trump will be the Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces, but has never been in the military NOR will he be leading the charge up a hill. I was honest, forthcoming and now you have the facts. Quit responding to the troll. He is trying his hand at gaslighting and milking you for more information. You are going to have to ignore him as he is trying to deflect, filibuster, and finagle ways to take us back off topic. The fact that he doesn't know what a Seabee is shows he probably has no military record of his own. He is lying when he claimed that I said anything about you. This what we're able to piece together. Liquid Reigns has been many people on the Internet. Tricky Dick's Hot Rod Shop Black Attucks Tree Doc Liquid Reigns  He admits that he was banned over dealings with you on at least one forum. We know it has been more than one board. That is an admission that he was violating the rules with respect to interactions with you. Then he denied the stuff dealing with a local board. He knew you were on a local discussion board and well versed in some version he made up of the events there. How did he know you were there when you never told anyone else that you registered there under another board name and were trying to sell a Bronco? If we examine when he shows up it can be hours to usually a couple of days after your register and start posting. How is he stalking you? It is possible to use social media monitors and this troll has you tuned in. When you post your Resister board name or maybe say things that are generally exclusive to what you usually say he can filter through new posts and find you based on your board name, words, phrases, and that sort of thing. If he were not stalking you it's impossible to rack up the chance encounters to coincidence. Also once you exit a board he leaves within a couple of days. He makes sure you are no longer posting and then exits. On every board that you posted on it can be seen that the majority of his posts are aimed at you. The fact that he does not want to admit that and that he keeps up the deflections and generating more lies is indicative that he realizes he has been outed. That line that was a non sequitir exposed him. There is no evidence that you ever claimed to be a Merchant Marine in any post we've looked at over the past several weeks. Does Liquid specify in any post that his parents signed for him to join the Army? He is so full of himself that it is almost entertaining from an outside perspective. There |
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Post by liquidmicro on Mar 7, 2024 0:29:23 GMT
What absolute dishonesty! The board you refer to is NOT the one that Yamcha built before. He nuked that one and we have references to that many times here. AND you didn't challenge the truthfulness of that back then. So, you're grasping at straws. Let's cut the shit short: I'm sick and tired of you going all over the Internet claiming that I wasn't in the military AND now claiming that someone else told you that or ... wait John told you that. I will ask him what he said. That's about as low as you can go. When you have a question, you don't need to ask all these other people that never laid eyes on me. You need to ask me. I'm going to explain this to you one time and this will never be revisited. WHEN I got involved in the Militia of Georgia I explained my experience to them and told them what they were getting if they voted for me. My opponents were (or would have been) a guy we call Troll, another man who was proven to be a Confidential Informant for the GBI and a man whose name escapes me at the moment. Troll should have won the election, but bowed at the nomination process and endorsed me saying that I was the man for the job. His endorsement got me past the other guys in a landslide because Troll left the Army Rangers to help organize the Militia of Georgia. My experience is that I did my part at the ripe old age of 17 and came home without ever experiencing actual combat or things that may merit mention. There is no stolen valor because I can show you an Honorable Discharge and a DD214. That did not qualify me, in my mind, to be the person everybody thought would lead the charge if the SHTF. For that reason, Troll agreed to be that man if we had to face the ultimate decision and go into a battle. Now, what about the rest of the story? LATER - several years LATER after my discharge, I decided I wanted to go into the Army and try to become an Army Ranger. I only had weeks to do that because I would be too old the next year. I was all ready to go... paperwork was in, physical completed, etc. All that was left was to get sworn in. The day after Thanksgiving that year I was in a car accident and died for a short period. Having shattered my elbow (among other things) it meant that my hopes of going back in were over. Still, unless someone gives me credit for S.P.I.K.E. and having gone to a couple of mercenary schools back then, I was not qualified to be the guy leading the troops up a hill. As the C.O. in the militia I would be an administrative functionary... much like Trump will be the Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces, but has never been in the military NOR will he be leading the charge up a hill. I was honest, forthcoming and now you have the facts. Quit responding to the troll. He is trying his hand at gaslighting and milking you for more information. You are going to have to ignore him as he is trying to deflect, filibuster, and finagle ways to take us back off topic. The fact that he doesn't know what a Seabee is shows he probably has no military record of his own. He is lying when he claimed that I said anything about you. This what we're able to piece together. Liquid Reigns has been many people on the Internet. Tricky Dick's Hot Rod Shop Black Attucks Tree Doc Liquid Reigns He admits that he was banned over dealings with you on at least one forum. We know it has been more than one board. That is an admission that he was violating the rules with respect to interactions with you. Then he denied the stuff dealing with a local board. He knew you were on a local discussion board and well versed in some version he made up of the events there. How did he know you were there when you never told anyone else that you registered there under another board name and were trying to sell a Bronco? If we examine when he shows up it can be hours to usually a couple of days after your register and start posting. How is he stalking you? It is possible to use social media monitors and this troll has you tuned in. When you post your Resister board name or maybe say things that are generally exclusive to what you usually say he can filter through new posts and find you based on your board name, words, phrases, and that sort of thing. If he were not stalking you it's impossible to rack up the chance encounters to coincidence. Also once you exit a board he leaves within a couple of days. He makes sure you are no longer posting and then exits. On every board that you posted on it can be seen that the majority of his posts are aimed at you. The fact that he does not want to admit that and that he keeps up the deflections and generating more lies is indicative that he realizes he has been outed. That line that was a non sequitir exposed him. There is no evidence that you ever claimed to be a Merchant Marine in any post we've looked at over the past several weeks. Does Liquid specify in any post that his parents signed for him to join the Army? He is so full of himself that it is almost entertaining from an outside perspective. There Obviously you are not who I thought you might be. I'm gaslighting? I'm milking for info? I'm deflecting? I'm filibustering? I don't know what a Seabee is? You don't seem very good at actual discussion of topics. I'm a liar? because I thought you were someone else? Obviously you're not who I thought you might be, but I digress. You've jumped to conclusions without comprehending my comments, that's OK. It's Attus Black, not Black Attucks, the least you could do is get it correct. What stuff did I deny about a local board? How am I stalking resister? Is this not an open internet? Do I need permission to join a forum from resister or make sure he isn't there first? I'm generating more lies? I've been outed? For an impartial observer, your not very impartial. You seem to be pretty inequitable. My parents did have to sign waivers for me to join the Army at 17, just like if resister went into the Merchant Marines at 17, his parent or parents would have had to sign a waiver when he joined. You obviously have no clue about military requirements, let alone how to do basic research. Merchant Marines were civilians, never members of the military, they never received a DD-214. I'm full of myself? It is entertaining to watch though, please continue. |
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Post by johndrake on Mar 7, 2024 2:22:38 GMT
Quit responding to the troll. He is trying his hand at gaslighting and milking you for more information. You are going to have to ignore him as he is trying to deflect, filibuster, and finagle ways to take us back off topic. The fact that he doesn't know what a Seabee is shows he probably has no military record of his own. He is lying when he claimed that I said anything about you. This what we're able to piece together. Liquid Reigns has been many people on the Internet. Tricky Dick's Hot Rod Shop Black Attucks Tree Doc Liquid Reigns He admits that he was banned over dealings with you on at least one forum. We know it has been more than one board. That is an admission that he was violating the rules with respect to interactions with you. Then he denied the stuff dealing with a local board. He knew you were on a local discussion board and well versed in some version he made up of the events there. How did he know you were there when you never told anyone else that you registered there under another board name and were trying to sell a Bronco? If we examine when he shows up it can be hours to usually a couple of days after your register and start posting. How is he stalking you? It is possible to use social media monitors and this troll has you tuned in. When you post your Resister board name or maybe say things that are generally exclusive to what you usually say he can filter through new posts and find you based on your board name, words, phrases, and that sort of thing. If he were not stalking you it's impossible to rack up the chance encounters to coincidence. Also once you exit a board he leaves within a couple of days. He makes sure you are no longer posting and then exits. On every board that you posted on it can be seen that the majority of his posts are aimed at you. The fact that he does not want to admit that and that he keeps up the deflections and generating more lies is indicative that he realizes he has been outed. That line that was a non sequitir exposed him. There is no evidence that you ever claimed to be a Merchant Marine in any post we've looked at over the past several weeks. Does Liquid specify in any post that his parents signed for him to join the Army? He is so full of himself that it is almost entertaining from an outside perspective. There Obviously you are not who I thought you might be. I'm gaslighting? I'm milking for info? I'm deflecting? I'm filibustering? I don't know what a Seabee is? You don't seem very good at actual discussion of topics. I'm a liar? because I thought you were someone else? Obviously you're not who I thought you might be, but I digress. You've jumped to conclusions without comprehending my comments, that's OK. It's Attus Black, not Black Attucks, the least you could do is get it correct. What stuff did I deny about a local board? How am I stalking resister? Is this not an open internet? Do I need permission to join a forum from resister or make sure he isn't there first? I'm generating more lies? I've been outed? For an impartial observer, your not very impartial. You seem to be pretty inequitable. My parents did have to sign waivers for me to join the Army at 17, just like if resister went into the Merchant Marines at 17, his parent or parents would have had to sign a waiver when he joined. You obviously have no clue about military requirements, let alone how to do basic research. Merchant Marines were civilians, never members of the military, they never received a DD-214. I'm full of myself? It is entertaining to watch though, please continue. I'm not here to debate you. The facts were presented and you made a lot of tough guy statements in reference to The Resister. I step in and you want people to believe that the facts do not add up to the facts. That is gaslighting. You cannot make me believe that you follow a man by coincidence showing up within hours to maybe a few days and you start posting on only the sites he posts on. Most every post is aimed at one person. You use multiple board names. You just happen to visit a local board not geared to a person living in California as you claim. Who do you think you fooled? The more you post the more I am convinced that my first impressions and research were right. The man did not tell you nor anyone else he was ever a Merchant Marine. That makes you a liar. You accused him of being a liar without asking if his parents signed when he was 17. That makes you the liar. There you went with a strawman argument based on a lie. You have told so many lies that it is easy to understand that it was you who have never served. You have been put on notice that more and more people are figuring out what you are about. You were offered an opportunity to face the man and you tapped out. Obviously you want something from him. You claim to have two daughters. The time you waste chasing after one man is cheating your daughters out of time you can't replace. If you were the least bit intelligent you would not be on the Internet swearing at people. That presumes you told the truth about having daughters. I had no dog in this fight except to bring this never ending back and forth to an end. You have not changed anybody's mind from what I can tell. You have not made a mark in the history books. Tonight you have called your own claims of military service into question. When we're done here we are done and people can reference this and determine that you lied to me and you made numerous false allegations that have been pointed out to you. Let me teach you a grade school lesson. Just because you have a right to do certain things does not make it right to do it. Additionally you should bear in mind karma has a way of catching up to you. If you can't post a DD 214 here after what you attempted then your own claims of a service record are questionable. Nuff said. |
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Post by liquidmicro on Mar 7, 2024 2:48:47 GMT
Obviously you are not who I thought you might be. I'm gaslighting? I'm milking for info? I'm deflecting? I'm filibustering? I don't know what a Seabee is? You don't seem very good at actual discussion of topics. I'm a liar? because I thought you were someone else? Obviously you're not who I thought you might be, but I digress. You've jumped to conclusions without comprehending my comments, that's OK. It's Attus Black, not Black Attucks, the least you could do is get it correct. What stuff did I deny about a local board? How am I stalking resister? Is this not an open internet? Do I need permission to join a forum from resister or make sure he isn't there first? I'm generating more lies? I've been outed? For an impartial observer, your not very impartial. You seem to be pretty inequitable. My parents did have to sign waivers for me to join the Army at 17, just like if resister went into the Merchant Marines at 17, his parent or parents would have had to sign a waiver when he joined. You obviously have no clue about military requirements, let alone how to do basic research. Merchant Marines were civilians, never members of the military, they never received a DD-214. I'm full of myself? It is entertaining to watch though, please continue. I'm not here to debate you. The facts were presented and you made a lot of tough guy statements in reference to The Resister. I step in and you want people to believe that the facts do not add up to the facts. That is gaslighting. You cannot make me believe that you follow a man by coincidence showing up within hours to maybe a few days and you start posting on only the sites he posts on. Most every post is aimed at one person. You use multiple board names. You just happen to visit a local board not geared to a person living in California as you claim. Who do you think you fooled? The more you post the more I am convinced that my first impressions and research were right. The man did not tell you nor anyone else he was ever a Merchant Marine. That makes you a liar. You accused him of being a liar without asking if his parents signed when he was 17. That makes you the liar. There you went with a strawman argument based on a lie. You have told so many lies that it is easy to understand that it was you who have never served. You have been put on notice that more and more people are figuring out what you are about. You were offered an opportunity to face the man and you tapped out. Obviously you want something from him. You claim to have two daughters. The time you waste chasing after one man is cheating your daughters out of time you can't replace. If you were the least bit intelligent you would not be on the Internet swearing at people. That presumes you told the truth about having daughters. I had no dog in this fight except to bring this never ending back and forth to an end. You have not changed anybody's mind from what I can tell. You have not made a mark in the history books. Tonight you have called your own claims of military service into question. When we're done here we are done and people can reference this and determine that you lied to me and you made numerous false allegations that have been pointed out to you. Let me teach you a grade school lesson. Just because you have a right to do certain things does not make it right to do it. Additionally you should bear in mind karma has a way of catching up to you. If you can't post a DD 214 here after what you attempted then your own claims of a service record are questionable. Nuff said. You're not here to debate me, but you are here to attempt to impugn me. You haven't presented any facts, you're big on exclaiming things though. What " tough guy" statements did I make? Am I limited to only boards that are geared towards California? I'm not trying to fool anybody. Based on your research so far, I'm unimpressed. I didn't accuse him of being a liar, I simply stated to join the military at 17 his parent or parents would have had to sign a waiver. If you were actually capable of doing basic research, you would find out that statement is actually factual and was so in the 1970's. Your ability to comprehend basic English is laughable. As to me serving or not, you can believe what ever you want. People are figuring me out? You and ProfessorX, you two? I'm so intimidated and what will I ever do? I tapped out of facing the man? You're the one here being his handler. As I have stated numerous times, any time he comes to Sacramento to let me know and I would meet him at the airport, he can give me the $2500 and get right back on his plane. LOL look at you attempting to put my Daughters into play. YAWN You might want to check your boys posts for swearing on line as well, so before pointing the finger at someone, you better be squeaky clean. For having no dog in this fight you sure are barking up a tree. How can it come to an end when you wont let resister speak? Who's minds am I here to change, you and ProfessorX's? Why would I care about that? You are going to teach me a grade school lesson? Karma? Just because I can doesn't mean I should? What am I here to prove? You invited me, hasn't work out so well for you now has it? Resister is a grown man, he is capable of responding to comments, if he can't handle criticism of his claims, then he shouldn't be on discussion boards. Honestly, I think he has great knowledge when it comes to building firearms and survival equipment, he should stick to things he knows, it would relieve any grief he gets about immigration, politics, or historical topics. |
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Post by johndrake on Mar 7, 2024 13:12:28 GMT
I'm not here to debate you. The facts were presented and you made a lot of tough guy statements in reference to The Resister. I step in and you want people to believe that the facts do not add up to the facts. That is gaslighting. You cannot make me believe that you follow a man by coincidence showing up within hours to maybe a few days and you start posting on only the sites he posts on. Most every post is aimed at one person. You use multiple board names. You just happen to visit a local board not geared to a person living in California as you claim. Who do you think you fooled? The more you post the more I am convinced that my first impressions and research were right. The man did not tell you nor anyone else he was ever a Merchant Marine. That makes you a liar. You accused him of being a liar without asking if his parents signed when he was 17. That makes you the liar. There you went with a strawman argument based on a lie. You have told so many lies that it is easy to understand that it was you who have never served. You have been put on notice that more and more people are figuring out what you are about. You were offered an opportunity to face the man and you tapped out. Obviously you want something from him. You claim to have two daughters. The time you waste chasing after one man is cheating your daughters out of time you can't replace. If you were the least bit intelligent you would not be on the Internet swearing at people. That presumes you told the truth about having daughters. I had no dog in this fight except to bring this never ending back and forth to an end. You have not changed anybody's mind from what I can tell. You have not made a mark in the history books. Tonight you have called your own claims of military service into question. When we're done here we are done and people can reference this and determine that you lied to me and you made numerous false allegations that have been pointed out to you. Let me teach you a grade school lesson. Just because you have a right to do certain things does not make it right to do it. Additionally you should bear in mind karma has a way of catching up to you. If you can't post a DD 214 here after what you attempted then your own claims of a service record are questionable. Nuff said. You're not here to debate me, but you are here to attempt to impugn me. You haven't presented any facts, you're big on exclaiming things though. What " tough guy" statements did I make? Am I limited to only boards that are geared towards California? I'm not trying to fool anybody. Based on your research so far, I'm unimpressed. I didn't accuse him of being a liar, I simply stated to join the military at 17 his parent or parents would have had to sign a waiver. If you were actually capable of doing basic research, you would find out that statement is actually factual and was so in the 1970's. Your ability to comprehend basic English is laughable. As to me serving or not, you can believe what ever you want. People are figuring me out? You and ProfessorX, you two? I'm so intimidated and what will I ever do? I tapped out of facing the man? You're the one here being his handler. As I have stated numerous times, any time he comes to Sacramento to let me know and I would meet him at the airport, he can give me the $2500 and get right back on his plane. LOL look at you attempting to put my Daughters into play. YAWN You might want to check your boys posts for swearing on line as well, so before pointing the finger at someone, you better be squeaky clean. For having no dog in this fight you sure are barking up a tree. How can it come to an end when you wont let resister speak? Who's minds am I here to change, you and ProfessorX's? Why would I care about that? You are going to teach me a grade school lesson? Karma? Just because I can doesn't mean I should? What am I here to prove? You invited me, hasn't work out so well for you now has it? Resister is a grown man, he is capable of responding to comments, if he can't handle criticism of his claims, then he shouldn't be on discussion boards. Honestly, I think he has great knowledge when it comes to building firearms and survival equipment, he should stick to things he knows, it would relieve any grief he gets about immigration, politics, or historical topics. Enough of the mind games. You were never invited to this board. You are welcome to post here but you are going to post within the parameters of common sense and the rules. You don't drop F bombs here and you had better watch what you say. If you choose to employ fighting words you can expect to be called out. You cannot play innocent on Resisters and attempt to play psychological games. You know the minds you want to change are the viewers that check in to be entertained. You have never changed their minds so posting for you is some kind of cheap amusement. Get over it. I think that your lack of common sense posting and that you backed down when challenged worked out pretty good for me. I had no expectations going in and now I despise and detest you. You had every opportunity to shut Resister down. With regards to the being 17 comment. You, I, and anyone else that read that realizes what you were doing. It was an unnecessary comment and it presumed that Resister did not get parental permission and therefore lied about his service. You could have apologized for that and for having posted hearsay. Today we both know that what you say is not true. Nobody told you that the Resister was in the Merchant Marines or had ever claimed as much. That was obvious to me. That being the case I am calling you out on behalf of everybody on this board. Unless you can show proof of your service record to us then you are making a false claim to any prior military service. Do you still want to go down that rabbit hole or are you ready to apologize and drop it? |
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Post by professorx on Mar 7, 2024 15:46:14 GMT
I'm not here to debate you. The facts were presented and you made a lot of tough guy statements in reference to The Resister. I step in and you want people to believe that the facts do not add up to the facts. That is gaslighting. You cannot make me believe that you follow a man by coincidence showing up within hours to maybe a few days and you start posting on only the sites he posts on. Most every post is aimed at one person. You use multiple board names. You just happen to visit a local board not geared to a person living in California as you claim. Who do you think you fooled? The more you post the more I am convinced that my first impressions and research were right. The man did not tell you nor anyone else he was ever a Merchant Marine. That makes you a liar. You accused him of being a liar without asking if his parents signed when he was 17. That makes you the liar. There you went with a strawman argument based on a lie. You have told so many lies that it is easy to understand that it was you who have never served. You have been put on notice that more and more people are figuring out what you are about. You were offered an opportunity to face the man and you tapped out. Obviously you want something from him. You claim to have two daughters. The time you waste chasing after one man is cheating your daughters out of time you can't replace. If you were the least bit intelligent you would not be on the Internet swearing at people. That presumes you told the truth about having daughters. I had no dog in this fight except to bring this never ending back and forth to an end. You have not changed anybody's mind from what I can tell. You have not made a mark in the history books. Tonight you have called your own claims of military service into question. When we're done here we are done and people can reference this and determine that you lied to me and you made numerous false allegations that have been pointed out to you. Let me teach you a grade school lesson. Just because you have a right to do certain things does not make it right to do it. Additionally you should bear in mind karma has a way of catching up to you. If you can't post a DD 214 here after what you attempted then your own claims of a service record are questionable. Nuff said. You're not here to debate me, but you are here to attempt to impugn me. You haven't presented any facts, you're big on exclaiming things though. What " tough guy" statements did I make? Am I limited to only boards that are geared towards California? I'm not trying to fool anybody. Based on your research so far, I'm unimpressed. I didn't accuse him of being a liar, I simply stated to join the military at 17 his parent or parents would have had to sign a waiver. If you were actually capable of doing basic research, you would find out that statement is actually factual and was so in the 1970's. Your ability to comprehend basic English is laughable. As to me serving or not, you can believe what ever you want. People are figuring me out? You and ProfessorX, you two? I'm so intimidated and what will I ever do? I tapped out of facing the man? You're the one here being his handler. As I have stated numerous times, any time he comes to Sacramento to let me know and I would meet him at the airport, he can give me the $2500 and get right back on his plane. LOL look at you attempting to put my Daughters into play. YAWN You might want to check your boys posts for swearing on line as well, so before pointing the finger at someone, you better be squeaky clean. For having no dog in this fight you sure are barking up a tree. How can it come to an end when you wont let resister speak? Who's minds am I here to change, you and ProfessorX's? Why would I care about that? You are going to teach me a grade school lesson? Karma? Just because I can doesn't mean I should? What am I here to prove? You invited me, hasn't work out so well for you now has it? Resister is a grown man, he is capable of responding to comments, if he can't handle criticism of his claims, then he shouldn't be on discussion boards. Honestly, I think he has great knowledge when it comes to building firearms and survival equipment, he should stick to things he knows, it would relieve any grief he gets about immigration, politics, or historical topics. Since this is on point I will answer this kind of trolling and that is the last word on the issues micro has brought up so far. Time for some new material in this thread. The comment about needing to have parents permission to enlist has been dealt with. micro interjected that to imply that Resister lied. If micro had an issue there he would have asked not put something in his reply that serves no purpose. micro continues to lie about some hearsay story that nobody reading this stuff believes. Any time that micro wants someone to go to Sacramento he is going to have to provide his name and contact info. Resister said he made two trips to California and searched for Liquid Reigns. I recall one time when his sister passed away that he spent several days in Cali with the help of another board tracing Liquid's ISP to come up with a location. Apparently Liquid hid like a scared rat. Contrary to micro's opinion of himself my view is that he was not invited here and now he has made an ass of himself and shown that he is some kind of sick demented troll with the IQ of the average ten year old. His sole purpose is to stalk one person and see how many boards he can come and take a giant shit in. 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Post by The Resister on Mar 8, 2024 23:58:10 GMT
What you are attempting to do here won't work. I have read what went on here and what went on at the DTT board when you used your influence and lies to con that lib into thinking I was The Resister. I even offered the head guy on that site the opportunity to face time with me so that he would know that we were not one and the same. Since you posted pics of The Resister on that site he couldn't possibly think we could remotely be the same person. You prevailed upon them and insisted that we were. No matter. When they had the Liberty Forum site we showed that the head guy from DTT used multiple sockpuppets. If The Resister had your e mail address or knew how to find you he would have done so. Criticism is one thing. Stalking and harassment is another. You were able to exploit some things in the past. Today you are being held accountable. I think it is highly immoral and dishonest for you to come here with that lie that The Resister did not serve in the military. He did. That technique where you make that false claim he did not is a little old. Having been in his house and witnessed the dd214 along with pictures pretty much convinces me. To the balance of your post you say you do not know John. Then you say he admitted to you he never served. You know John Drake or you do not? When you have to lace your posts with calling people a moron and going over the same points over and over it is not discussion. I also agree that when you posted personal information that others were not looking for and most people do not do that deep a search for - you became the sole proximate cause of some of the acts perpetrated against him. They all happened within hours of nasty posts you did. Because of you I got banned on a couple of sites. And if it is not harassment of what use is going over the same lie over and over that you post about past military experience? What is it to you and what does it have to do with the many posts the two of you participated on with regards to immigration? At least all of that is no longer a subject for debate. Not here. The name calling and the lies are subject to a response. There is a day of reckoning. For me. For you. That is my input. I'm not attempting to do anything here other then defend myself and deal with your issues. I had no influence at DTT, nor did I lie or con any lib into thinking you were the resister. Your arguments there and your style of discussion was identical, they picked up on it and the rest was history. I didn't post pics of resister, I linked to his youtube channel where he made himself public. Your Liberty Lobby Forum didn't show anything other than you can't handle discussion forums. You're right, stalking and harassing is one thing, one to which you should look a lot closer to home on. Obviously over his life he has created some enemies, especially if he talks in person the way he does on line. I live in California, I don't visit the east coast, I don't have family on the east coast. I'm being held accountable? My techniques? I don't know "John", I have an inclination as to who he is. resister never served is what I said that "John", provided "John" is who I think he is, told me that resister admitted to him that he never served. The story resister put out that I read was he was in an accident on his way to his reporting and then never ended up going in the military. Me calling him a moron, is that any different then him calling people out to "kick their ass" over "fighting words"? Spare me. When it is repeated to him by more people than I can count that his claims are factually wrong or that his legal interpretations are inane, yet he keeps repeating them over and over, what does that tell you? I didn't post personal information of resister, he did that himself. I linked to discussions in which he himself put his info out. Any acts perpetrated against him, are results of his own volition. Your accusations of cause and effect fall on deaf ears. You got banned on sites due to your own postings. I don't like those that claim Stolen Valor. As to immigration, its a discussion topic, one I enjoy, the other is US History. You keep going on about stolen valor when you have admitted that you really are NOT a veteran. If you want to challenge me on that point, you should be willing to do it like a man. You still seem to mix the Prof up with me. He was banned because YOU wanted to be the chief butt kisser and YOU told imaginethat that Professor X (I don't recall his board name) and I were one and the same. He was banned because YOU told imaginethat that Prof and I were the same. He was banned on a false accusation of having multiple accounts. YOU are the sole approximate cause of that. We argued that point on Liberty Lobby Forum. Prof offered the man face time and he was too much of a moral coward to do face time and question Prof to prove he actually posted that work. It doesn't matter what is on the Internet. It is not your job to expose my identity to anyone. That is pure dishonesty to say you didn't post my information. Copying and pasting something with my real name from another site is a violation of privacy. Other boards have agreed from what I hear. So, what you believe is your own personal belief, not consistent with what the facts are. YOU are the one initiating the contentious posts that end up with me inviting you out. When I was a kid, when one person talked to another the way you talk to people, it generally meant they wanted to call them out. I'm only accommodating you, UNLESS you are so spineless that all you can do is peck a keyboard. You've never been in the military; you don't have any kids and your life is so empty that all you ever do is look for a fight. You're whining now and acting like a damn baby because you are unable to have a real debate and leave the psychological games behind. If you pick a fight, you should stand up like a man and hold yourself accountable. You don't do that. That has told me you're not a man. Quit crying and start debating without the personal B.S. |
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