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Post by The Resister on Oct 27, 2022 21:15:13 GMT
Let's face it. America is falling apart and most of us come to discussion boards with the notion of saying something that may fix the overall condition of our country. Most of what is wrong is exemplified by looking at the number of people in jail or prison on drug related charges. We see a nation where the Posterity are more likely spending their money on tattoos and body piercings than on their dental health, mental health, or their ability to earn a living. Over half of the American people are drawing money out of the public dole. Why? What is going on? We have Drug Nation USA and the biggest drug distributor in the United States is the federal government backed up by the medical community. Divorce and dysfunctional families are the rule, not the exception.
That has had me thinking. I'd like to impart my experience onto a younger generation. If only the me of today could speak to the me when I was 12 to 15 years old, my life would be dramatically different. And if there were guys out there... even adults with lots of mileage left in their lives, there are things I would want to say to them so that could benefit and become real men. If you're over 50, think about it. What would the 50 year old you say to the 15 year old you that would change the balance of your life for the better? Our problem is that many of today's youth don't have the opportunity to become a man. There are pressures from the LGBTQP community to become a fairy. The MSM looks down on real men. They build false narratives and use buzz words to camouflage what they're doing. We need this discussion. We need to talk about what we should teach the youth of today that would prepare them and make them better people and to become real men.
Would anyone like to participate?
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Post by noclevername on Oct 30, 2022 4:08:14 GMT
Checked in on this thread before calling it a night. Disappointed. There are only three views and no replies. If it will make it better you have my interest.
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Post by curiousfiend on Nov 3, 2022 9:41:00 GMT
Let's face it. America is falling apart and most of us come to discussion boards with the notion of saying something that may fix the overall condition of our country. Most of what is wrong is exemplified by looking at the number of people in jail or prison on drug related charges. We see a nation where the Posterity are more likely spending their money on tattoos and body piercings than on their dental health, mental health, or their ability to earn a living. Over half of the American people are drawing money out of the public dole. Why? What is going on? We have Drug Nation USA and the biggest drug distributor in the United States is the federal government backed up by the medical community. Divorce and dysfunctional families are the rule, not the exception. That has had me thinking. I'd like to impart my experience onto a younger generation. If only the me of today could speak to the me when I was 12 to 15 years old, my life would be dramatically different. And if there were guys out there... even adults with lots of mileage left in their lives, there are things I would want to say to them so that could benefit and become real men. If you're over 50, think about it. What would the 50 year old you say to the 15 year old you that would change the balance of your life for the better? Our problem is that many of today's youth don't have the opportunity to become a man. There are pressures from the LGBTQP community to become a fairy. The MSM looks down on real men. They build false narratives and use buzz words to camouflage what they're doing. We need this discussion. We need to talk about what we should teach the youth of today that would prepare them and make them better people and to become real men. Would anyone like to participate? Yes sir, i would love to participate. Thank you affording this great opportunity. Just guessing here, am thinking i may actually be the youngest one on the forum,[*mid-30s] and if so then i suppose that alone would qualify me as a student,...and yet i'd definitely have a few things to say to 15yo me if that were possible. Hey actually, this might serve to assist this threads development; Once upon a time [*mid-1980s, there was a young couple who bore a child [*me], then shortly after they bore two[*her, three*] more boys. The young hastily married couple were a teenaged dude[19yo][*farmer] and a teenaged chick[17yo][,...ahh,... ...🤔...in modern terms i guess she would have been](*& still is)
They were supported by the dude's elderly parents[*~70-80yo] and he worked on their dairy farm while the chick lazed about/paraded around as if to be the perfect "good/loyal wife/mother".
To be fair, they both did the only the best they could, though after ~5ish years, stresses of 3[+1] children, an overworked[~80+h/w] husband/father, an insatiable abusive wife/mother, their combined drug/alcohol/party indulgences, and all the major internal & extended family dramas the wife/mother created constantly,...these pressures ultimately exceeded manageable thresholds and so kablam!—shtfam!
He[*the husband/father] had already secretly shacked up with some other chick.[*and i suspect it's partly coz he also knew something that took me 30years to realize—their 4th child is not his.]
She[*the wife/mother][*i now know is highly dysfunctional] did what she knew best,...and ditched the no longer advantageous; "wife/mother costume" and threw on/revealed a shiney new disguise; the "Perpetual Victim".
However she had already caused so much unnecessary chaos amongst a reasonably large and well established family, and prior to that even, she had alienated herself from her own family. So she—& her manipulations simply did not stand a chance against the combined defenses,...and so she grabbed the 4 kids and dragged them right across the country—far away from it all,...and landed the five of them in a steaming pile of,...🤔...urban unpleasantries.
Before age ~9, i got to experience such wonderful things like; major family dramas, drunk/drugged out young adults and me & my bros were often left sleeping in the car whilst they partied, and of course the experience of a family break-up. [*i have a lot of strange memories of the drunken drives home.]
After age ~9, i got to experience the beneficial[*sarc] education of a solo mother—and a series of "new dads", and being used as unwitting weapons in the family court system and so forth.
If ya'z know about the basic dynamics[*the individual roles] within a "narcissistic family unit", "mum" was the "main narcissist", i[*1st son] was switched between "Golden Child", "Scapegoat", "Surrogate Parent" status, my younger bro[*2nd] has always a mix of the "Enabler", "Mascot", "Flying Monkey"—& now full blown adult "Narcopath"/"Malignant Narcissist". The next bro[*3rd] was/is sometimes the backup/alternative "Golden Child", "Scapegoat", "Surrogate Parent.—& now full blown "Covert (type) adult Narcissist". The youngest[*4th], he still doesn't know he has a different father, which i think may have contributed to why "mum" always treated/doted on him like a lost puppy, he was always the "Lost, or Needy Child".
Sometime in 1995, the three bros and i got to live through a crazy late night experience with our "mother".
We had no clue what was even going on at the time, but one night she frantically dragged us oughta bed, jammed us in this new V6 Holden Commodore she'd just ticked up, and proceeded to hysterically ramble/cry/spaz out—while speeding along what seemed to be endless backroads.
At some point i woke up coz of the swerving and loud sounds of gravel thrashing against the left side of the car[*NZers drive on the left side], i saw that my bros were all asleep, "mums" frazzled hair and erratically moving silhouette indicated i best keep silent.
Though i kept watching,...
...and i witnessed,...
...as she seemed to be attempting to pull over—except—this was at an unreasonably highspeed, even i knew how dangerous this was, i became overcome with fear,...in frozen contrast to the blurred-vaguely tree colored shapes grew closer as this visual haze zoomed by to my left.
The last moments of conscious memory recall a slightly silhouetted highpoint of the unlit straight road up ahead, we were headed uphill— approaching the highpoint, and there was another vehicle coming from the other direction.
Within seconds its lights glared into view, couldn't make out what it was at first, though for a fraction of a second out the left rear passenger window past my youngest infant brother —as "mum" suddenly swerved right, basically sliding the car sideways into the path of the oncoming vehicle,...when i saw what was a typical tractor/trailer unit[*truck] as it slammed into the car,...and everything went dark.
Ok, so it's late here and i gotta hit the hay, though had hoped to share more of the experiences of a young modern man who's managed to—eventually—find his way out of the dysfunctional abyss of the increasingly"normalized" modern inverted family/social life.
Coz i think that by doing so, not only is it—tbh—cathartic, it might also provide a bit of useful insight into the perspectives of the modern dysfunctional adult-children.
Dunno, it's just that i generally find that in order to fix—or become proficient at something, i gotta really get to know the ins & outs and how it all fits together.
•If you'd[*any reader] like, i could continue adding to this tomorrow.
🙂👍 Good night, and bless.
Sent from my CPH2025 using Tapatalk
Well, apparently around 75%[*several hours writing] of my previous post just vanished. Will have to fix this tomorrow coz it's late and i gotta crash out. Sent from my CPH2025 using Tapatalk
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Post by The Resister on Nov 3, 2022 12:23:52 GMT
Yes sir, i would love to participate. Thank you affording this great opportunity. Just guessing here, am thinking i may actually be the youngest one on the forum,[*mid-30s] and if so then i suppose that alone would qualify me as a student,...and yet i'd definitely have a few things to say to 15yo me if that were possible. Hey actually, this might serve to assist this threads development; Once upon a time [*mid-1980s, there was a young couple who bore a child [*me], then shortly after they bore two[*her, three*] more boys. The young hastily married couple were a teenaged dude[19yo][*farmer] and a teenaged chick[17yo][,...ahh,... ...🤔...in modern terms i guess she would have been](*& still is)
They were supported by the dude's elderly parents[*~70-80yo] and he worked on their dairy farm while the chick lazed about/paraded around as if to be the perfect "good/loyal wife/mother".
To be fair, they both did the only the best they could, though after ~5ish years, stresses of 3[+1] children, an overworked[~80+h/w] husband/father, an insatiable abusive wife/mother, their combined drug/alcohol/party indulgences, and all the major internal & extended family dramas the wife/mother created constantly,...these pressures ultimately exceeded manageable thresholds and so kablam!—shtfam!
He[*the husband/father] had already secretly shacked up with some other chick.[*and i suspect it's partly coz he also knew something that took me 30years to realize—their 4th child is not his.]
She[*the wife/mother][*i now know is highly dysfunctional] did what she knew best,...and ditched the no longer advantageous; "wife/mother costume" and threw on/revealed a shiney new disguise; the "Perpetual Victim".
However she had already caused so much unnecessary chaos amongst a reasonably large and well established family, and prior to that even, she had alienated herself from her own family. So she—& her manipulations simply did not stand a chance against the combined defenses,...and so she grabbed the 4 kids and dragged them right across the country—far away from it all,...and landed the five of them in a steaming pile of,...🤔...urban unpleasantries.
Before age ~9, i got to experience such wonderful things like; major family dramas, drunk/drugged out young adults and me & my bros were often left sleeping in the car whilst they partied, and of course the experience of a family break-up. [*i have a lot of strange memories of the drunken drives home.]
After age ~9, i got to experience the beneficial[*sarc] education of a solo mother—and a series of "new dads", and being used as unwitting weapons in the family court system and so forth.
If ya'z know about the basic dynamics[*the individual roles] within a "narcissistic family unit", "mum" was the "main narcissist", i[*1st son] was switched between "Golden Child", "Scapegoat", "Surrogate Parent" status, my younger bro[*2nd] has always a mix of the "Enabler", "Mascot", "Flying Monkey"—& now full blown adult "Narcopath"/"Malignant Narcissist". The next bro[*3rd] was/is sometimes the backup/alternative "Golden Child", "Scapegoat", "Surrogate Parent.—& now full blown "Covert (type) adult Narcissist". The youngest[*4th], he still doesn't know he has a different father, which i think may have contributed to why "mum" always treated/doted on him like a lost puppy, he was always the "Lost, or Needy Child".
Sometime in 1995, the three bros and i got to live through a crazy late night experience with our "mother".
We had no clue what was even going on at the time, but one night she frantically dragged us oughta bed, jammed us in this new V6 Holden Commodore she'd just ticked up, and proceeded to hysterically ramble/cry/spaz out—while speeding along what seemed to be endless backroads.
At some point i woke up coz of the swerving and loud sounds of gravel thrashing against the left side of the car[*NZers drive on the left side], i saw that my bros were all asleep, "mums" frazzled hair and erratically moving silhouette indicated i best keep silent.
Though i kept watching,...
...and i witnessed,...
...as she seemed to be attempting to pull over—except—this was at an unreasonably highspeed, even i knew how dangerous this was, i became overcome with fear,...in frozen contrast to the blurred-vaguely tree colored shapes grew closer as this visual haze zoomed by to my left.
The last moments of conscious memory recall a slightly silhouetted highpoint of the unlit straight road up ahead, we were headed uphill— approaching the highpoint, and there was another vehicle coming from the other direction.
Within seconds its lights glared into view, couldn't make out what it was at first, though for a fraction of a second out the left rear passenger window past my youngest infant brother —as "mum" suddenly swerved right, basically sliding the car sideways into the path of the oncoming vehicle,...when i saw what was a typical tractor/trailer unit[*truck] as it slammed into the car,...and everything went dark.
Ok, so it's late here and i gotta hit the hay, though had hoped to share more of the experiences of a young modern man who's managed to—eventually—find his way out of the dysfunctional abyss of the increasingly"normalized" modern inverted family/social life.
Coz i think that by doing so, not only is it—tbh—cathartic, it might also provide a bit of useful insight into the perspectives of the modern dysfunctional adult-children.
Dunno, it's just that i generally find that in order to fix—or become proficient at something, i gotta really get to know the ins & outs and how it all fits together.
•If you'd[*any reader] like, i could continue adding to this tomorrow.
🙂👍 Good night, and bless.
Sent from my CPH2025 using Tapatalk
Well, apparently around 75%[*several hours writing] of my previous post just vanished. Will have to fix this tomorrow coz it's late and i gotta crash out. Sent from my CPH2025 using Tapatalk Some of your posts are excessively long. It could be that due to the number of links, over-use of images, etc. your posts are being flagged and truncated (a fancy word for shortened or edited.) Some boards limit the characters. If you are going to use links and images, you may want to limit the number in a given post. It's difficult. Most people only have an attention span to read three paragraphs and I tend to do more, but I'm not posting images and lots of smileys, strange characters within a sentence, etc.
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Post by The Resister on Nov 3, 2022 14:55:59 GMT
Since at least one person is getting some benefit from this thread, I will get to the point:
Recently, a woman got onto a local board that I visit. She said her son was being unruly and causing her problems. She wanted to know if there were any organizations that had a Big Brother program so that her son might meet someone that could be a male role model. Well, of course, she got a lot of posts from feminists telling her not to "let some random man" advise her child and other lefty women began asking her how she was doing. BTW, I volunteered to mentor the boy. Having been a DFACS asset (that's a foster parent that takes in children for the government when children are taken out of the home) I think I have some qualifications. Add to that I do have a degree in Christian Education. Needless to say, that went nowhere.
What we're looking at today are massive numbers of children that are being brought up by their mother. Divorce is rampant and most of the time the child is put into the custody of the mother. We are a nation of absent fathers. Add to that we are also a nation that is a couple of generations into having males that grew up in fatherless homes. So, you have a young man who is growing up without his father and, even if the father cares, the father grew up in a fatherless home. Add to that the number of children in dysfunctional homes where there is physical and / or emotional abuse, drugs, violence, neglect, etc., etc. and a dark picture begins to emerge.
Today, the average white male is saddled with every possible disadvantage they can encounter. Most lack a good father figure and the most influential person in any young person's life is the same sex parent. The mothers have been programmed to think my body, my baby and the father plays no role outside of being the sperm donor and financial revenue generating resource for the "woman's baby." We have a couple of generations of males that think they are ladies. The LGBTQP community is filled with people from broken homes with a mother raising the children. So, I'm seeing teens up to guys in their 40s and beyond that cannot think, reason or act like a man. Add to that, our lifestyles that are concentrated in high sugar / fats for a diet and a lack of hard work, it gives you males with low testosterone, unable to perform adequately during sexual encounters.
The average "man" of today doesn't read. Most people find ten paragraphs on a discussion board to be a wall of text. They have no real skillsets. Check the colleges and trade schools. Most of the people in attendance are women and nonwhites (and most of them from foreign countries.) Women are taking the lead role and becoming the preachers in the churches. Ditto for most of the elected positions within government. It is shameful and it is disgusting. But, by the lack of views on this thread, we cannot really solve the problem until people admit that a problem exists. When I post again, it won't matter whether a person is 14 or 50 (or anywhere in between) they should begin to get exposure to what they should have learned.
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Post by professorx on Nov 3, 2022 18:04:32 GMT
Since at least one person is getting some benefit from this thread, I will get to the point: Recently, a woman got onto a local board that I visit. She said her son was being unruly and causing her problems. She wanted to know if there were any organizations that had a Big Brother program so that her son might meet someone that could be a male role model. Well, of course, she got a lot of posts from feminists telling her not to " let some random man" advise her child and other lefty women began asking her how she was doing. BTW, I volunteered to mentor the boy. Having been a DFACS asset (that's a foster parent that takes in children for the government when children are taken out of the home) I think I have some qualifications. Add to that I do have a degree in Christian Education. Needless to say, that went nowhere. What we're looking at today are massive numbers of children that are being brought up by their mother. Divorce is rampant and most of the time the child is put into the custody of the mother. We are a nation of absent fathers. Add to that we are also a nation that is a couple of generations into having males that grew up in fatherless homes. So, you have a young man who is growing up without his father and, even if the father cares, the father grew up in a fatherless home. Add to that the number of children in dysfunctional homes where there is physical and / or emotional abuse, drugs, violence, neglect, etc., etc. and a dark picture begins to emerge. Today, the average white male is saddled with every possible disadvantage they can encounter. Most lack a good father figure and the most influential person in any young person's life is the same sex parent. The mothers have been programmed to think my body, my baby and the father plays no role outside of being the sperm donor and financial revenue generating resource for the " woman's baby." We have a couple of generations of males that think they are ladies. The LGBTQP community is filled with people from broken homes with a mother raising the children. So, I'm seeing teens up to guys in their 40s and beyond that cannot think, reason or act like a man. Add to that, our lifestyles that are concentrated in high sugar / fats for a diet and a lack of hard work, it gives you males with low testosterone, unable to perform adequately during sexual encounters. The average " man" of today doesn't read. Most people find ten paragraphs on a discussion board to be a wall of text. They have no real skillsets. Check the colleges and trade schools. Most of the people in attendance are women and nonwhites (and most of them from foreign countries.) Women are taking the lead role and becoming the preachers in the churches. Ditto for most of the elected positions within government. It is shameful and it is disgusting. But, by the lack of views on this thread, we cannot really solve the problem until people admit that a problem exists. When I post again, it won't matter whether a person is 14 or 50 (or anywhere in between) they should begin to get exposure to what they should have learned. Mate you're on point! Believe it or not my vanished post was specifically related to giving a perspective from one of these modern fatherless adult-children. This subject is important and the best way to solve something is to learn as much about that something as is possible. i obviously wouldn't know if you've personally experienced being brought up in a modern dysfunctional solo-female family unit. If not, would you like me to hook ya up with first hand insight? Was going to redo the vanished post, though, i dunno,...the prospect of it vanishing again and tbh the lingering thought that my posts might essentially be considered as nothing but an annoyance, doesn't really elicit motivation to bother—yet i still want to, simply because you seem to be asking for help and i love helping. Anyways, let me know if you would like some insight,...i have a bunch of fruit trees to plant right now. Sent from my CPH2025 using Tapatalk It's a lot of work for us to accommodate your long posts. We ask that people post at least three sentences in a post, but try to keep it to around 12 paragraphs max. Having large posts with multiple images is causing moderation issues. If some of your posts get truncated that is the reason. When it comes to posts are too long people say TLDR. The Resister had to modify his long posts so that they fit and also that people would actually read them. That being said I am interested in where this thread was going. It looks like we are going to have one poster traveling down a pre-determined path and at least one more going around the world in each post. It should become interesting.
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Post by curiousfiend on Nov 3, 2022 20:16:28 GMT
Mate you're on point! Believe it or not my vanished post was specifically related to giving a perspective from one of these modern fatherless adult-children. This subject is important and the best way to solve something is to learn as much about that something as is possible. i obviously wouldn't know if you've personally experienced being brought up in a modern dysfunctional solo-female family unit. If not, would you like me to hook ya up with first hand insight? Was going to redo the vanished post, though, i dunno,...the prospect of it vanishing again and tbh the lingering thought that my posts might essentially be considered as nothing but an annoyance, doesn't really elicit motivation to bother—yet i still want to, simply because you seem to be asking for help and i love helping. Anyways, let me know if you would like some insight,...i have a bunch of fruit trees to plant right now. Sent from my CPH2025 using Tapatalk It's a lot of work for us to accommodate your long posts. We ask that people post at least three sentences in a post, but try to keep it to around 12 paragraphs max. Having large posts with multiple images is causing moderation issues. If some of your posts get truncated that is the reason. When it comes to posts are too long people say TLDR. The Resister had to modify his long posts so that they fit and also that people would actually read them. That being said I am interested in where this thread was going. It looks like we are going to have one poster traveling down a pre-determined path and at least one more going around the world in each post. It should become interesting. Sweet as, i'll limit posts to 12ish paragraphs then. Guess i best make a start redoing the vanished post, though i would like to get into a bit of detail in order to properly present in-depth insight that will hopefully afford useful information for ya'z—and i will be sharing some stuff that might be a tad shocking. A lot of this stuff has taken me years to actually come to terms with, let alone to be able to openly share it with others,...what i mean is that by doing this, i am going to be allowing ya'z to see my weaknesses and therefore am entrusting ya'll with a significant degree of responsibility. Sent from my CPH2025 using Tapatalk
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Post by weaponoffreedom on Nov 3, 2022 22:51:06 GMT
This is a broad subject, so will first hit on the one subject that i think is most important and to the heart of the issue......as I see it.
Men are supposed to be the "protector","provider","example"........first i will hit on protector as it is the most important.
I think that it has simply to do with modern society's stance on violence. "Zero tolerance" when it comes to fighting in schools they say. i think it started sometime in the 80s but i might be wrong. In order for a male of our species to be a "man", amongst many other things they have to be able to commit violence. Understand that violence does not mean anything physical....but life conflict in general. Society has been tricked into thinking that what they are supposed to be is bad....this is true with men and women.....but for now, ill keep to the man.
There is an old saying from someone somewhere: "all that is needed for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing"......this is very true. having the choice to do violence is a requisite for "good" Not having the ability, whether metal or physical, gives the person a lack of options, and leads to a mode of compliance. Compliance is how the Holocaust happened.
Men are supposed to be the protectors of the family or the tribe, or whatever you want to call it, and is you are unwilling to do violence, you cannot achieve the status of "protector"
"Provider" is easy. Men are to provide stuff for the family....simple.......food, clothes, candy, video games etc.
"Example" if you do both of the above, then you are the example.....it is cyclic either way. I am over simplifying this for means of expedience of the post, but i thin kyall get the picture.
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Post by The Resister on Nov 4, 2022 2:53:48 GMT
•Part #3 After we left the hospital, things went back to the usual craziness and "mum" got back together with the violent "new dad" and we had to witness him beating her senseless quite regular for the next decade, but he left once i was almost big enough to actually put up a fight against him. However that's about when "new dad number 2" came into the picture. He was a midrange drug dealer & involved with local gangs. Luckily my bros & i were males because "mum" actually tried to prostitute us out for drugs on numerous occasions during our teens,...the first time i realized this i was around 17yo when she got me into bedroom where she acted unusually friendly to me[*she only ever treated me in particular with outright disgust & hatefulness] at the time i was suspicious but just so frickin happy to be treated nicely by this woman so i didn't expect when this bigwig drug dealer dude barged in the room grinning at me weirdly. They gleefully chatted for a couple of minutes and he sorta slowly moved closer to me while they laughed & joked. He also handed her a large baggie of what i presume was meth or something, before he randomly reached his left arm around me grabbing my ass. Honestly that caught me off guard aye, didn't know how to react,...and went into limbic system autopilot,...more specifically—"fight mode",...i was half this dude's size and if in any other situation he'd have crushed me, though in this case the flurry of fists against face was sufficient that he fled. She sold what little i had in my room in the days following while i was at work,...and when i got home on the following friday, which was payday[*after i'd already transferred the next week's board to her account] low and behold—all my clothes 'n' stuff were dumped out on the road and already ransacked apparently. Didn't even bother grabbing any of it, instead i went to a mates to get drunk. After that i rented a rundown motel unit til i found a cheap house to rent. my brothers and everyone we knew were told some kind of story in which i had supposedly done something terrible to our "innocent" "mother" and they all seemed to enjoy treating me like a POS after that—and it only got worse as the years went by. Wasn't till i was about 24-25ish that i started learning psychology and learned of the dynamics of "narcissistic family units",... realizing that i had been designated the "Scapegoat" role. •End of part #3 Sent from my CPH2025 using Tapatalk •Part #4 i dropped oughta school at 15 and by 16 had scored a full-time job house painting, though frankly i was a total screw up. Spent pretty much all my wages on drugs/alcohol and did bugger all other than getting into a lot of trouble, fighting and stuff. This continued into my early 20s. When i was 18, a 16yo friend was murdered my an old primary school mate, and at age 20 a girlfriends 16yo brother hung himself in a sleepout i'd been boarding in. He did that while some friends and i were just outside drinking and we didn't know til i bust down the door a full day later. Several months after that, while boarding with one of my brothers i was woken one night by the bro standing in my bedroom doorway ranting & raving nonsensically, similar to how "mum" had done the night she crashed the car. He abruptly stopped the ranting and in a creepy polite manner asked that i come to the kitchen to see something, so i went to see what his deal was. In the moments it took me to walk down the hallway, he'd gone to the kitchen pulled out & dumped the cutlery draws onto the dinning room table—and was already waiting with several large knives in each hand—like Edward Scissorhands, when i walked in. He immediately charged. There wasn't time to even register what was happening, and i don't know why but i automatically stepped towards him—launching into a flying headbutt which knocked him out. Never told anyone this bit before, i still haven't forgiven myself for doing that to my little brother—despite the situation. Anyways i freaked out after the headbutt, and as ridiculous as this seems now, i actually thought at the time that i might've killed him. He regained consciousness after probably 30 seconds at most, and seemed to be completely oblivious to what just happened—he literally seemed like his normal sober self and we even sat for a few minutes chatting. He seemed happy as at first, but suddenly stopped talking and glared at me in silence for at least a minute before smiling as he headed towards his room saying he's got a surprise for me. •End of part #4 Sent from my CPH2025 using Tapatalk You should limit the number of posts if you want people to read all of that. Give it to them a little at a time.
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Post by The Resister on Nov 4, 2022 3:40:02 GMT
Maybe I'm expecting too much out of this thread, but I'll plug along so that you get a gist of what I was going to say: Most of us probably came from dysfunctional families. OTOH, dysfunctional as they may be, I recall a time when fathers used to let their sons buy a junk car at about the age of 14. After a year or so of father and son bonding over rebuilding the car, the young man would get a learner's permit and learn to drive. The young man already had a skillset of being able to work on cars. Today kids don't bond over fixing cars or motorcycles. IF they bond, it's over sharing a joint, a cigarette, or maybe hard core illegal drugs. Like most people I came from a highly dysfunctional family. The old man would beat his kids (and we're talking bones getting broken.) He beat on my mother until I was a teen. I have a younger brother that suffers from self esteem issues despite being far more talented in most things compared to me. Our beatings were legendary in the neighborhood. The difference between myself and my siblings is that when the old man was in the pokey (jail / prison) I sought out father figures that lived in situations that were what I wanted to be like. It has never made sense to me why most children will mimic their parents, even adopting all their destructive behaviors. But, that is the way it is. As I got older (starting at about 17) I did a lot of babysitting. In my adult years I became a foster parent. In between I tried to help all kinds of guys from various age groups to find their way and be more successful. If you missed something at the age of 11 or so (even earlier) it doesn't matter how old you are now, it's never too late to go back to the basics and start doing things right. Early in life we should have learned values. That is increasingly difficult for a myriad of reasons. Divorce, drug abuse, the government being the nation's largest drug supplier, laws that interfere with parents ability to discipline their children, and a nation that has divorced themselves from God are all leading the pack - followed by political propaganda by the LGBTQP community to convert straight people to bi, gay, binary, etc., etc. AND the multiculturalists rewriting history. Then you have the atheists that LIE every time you get into a debate about our nation's history. Tell the truth that America was founded on Christian principles and you get a debate from lying, whiny liberals that try to make it a debate about theocracy. America was not founded as a theocracy. It's foundational principles are rooted in the Christian faith. Our commitment to the Rights to Life, Liberty, and ownership of personal property are uniquely Christian. SOME other faiths have some of the same tents of faith; however, when it comes to things like sending missionaries out into the world, it was the United States that started sending those missionaries out. The Background: According to Todd Johnson, director of the Center for the Study of Global Christianity at Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary, in 2010 the U.S. sent out one out of every four missionaries—-127,000 of the world’s estimated 400,000 missionaries. In distant second place is Brazil, which sent 34,000 missionaries abroad. We fight world's wars, give money out as if every American were rich beyond their wildest dreams and the comparative wealth of Christians in this country is beyond astounding: www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/07/31/americans-are-far-more-religious-than-adults-in-other-wealthy-nations/The one thing that amazed me about the MAGA movement is that people wanted to pass more laws to take them to a place they had already been. To draw you an analogy, suppose you had a decent running car, but you kept putting junk on it until it couldn't perform like it used to. So, if you want it to run like it used to, why not take the junk off it and replace it with what you had? Why add more junk, hoping that your car would perform like it used to? But, that's what we do in society. And that takes us to the people on the right. I'm not going to preach to you or try to convert you, but this is the way it is in the United Socialist States of Amerika right now. Americans lead the world in drug use. Americans consume over 80 percent of the world's opioid supply and, in general, lead the world in illegal drug use (next to New Zealand proportionally): www.cbsnews.com/news/us-leads-the-world-in-illegal-drug-use/America has more people in prison than any country on the planet and for every drug addict in a rehab facility, more than ten are in prison. In raw numbers the United States is second in the world when it comes to abortion (China with a population in the BILLIONS is first.) And our religious leaders don't help. They tell their flocks that we are no longer under the law. The Bible defines sin as the transgression of the law. If we are no longer under the law then there is no sin. Or so the nominal church world has taught the sheeple. They claim if you're paid up and prayed up, pay your tithes and accept Christ, some day you will be raptured out and go off into the high heavens - all of which is absolute trash that has added to our lack of values. But, these NEW WORLD ORDER Christians can be gay, bi, transsexual, binary; they can be liars, thieves, pedophiles, socialists, communists, and engage in miscegenation and it's good so long as they say they're " saved." I'll finish the thought while you consider this so far.
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Post by The Resister on Nov 4, 2022 15:31:21 GMT
The long posts in between what I'm saying and the points being made are now questionable. I'm not playing games or trying to trick people and my years in the legal field tell me that the consistent pattern of what I'm trying to articulate are fair, balanced, and easy to understand for those who are interested.
Obviously, there is little interest in what I'm saying so I will finish the points I referred to earlier and turn the thread over to curiousfiend.
The biggest responsibility that a father can impart to his son is that of values. Unfortunately, the fathers going back at least two generations have shaky values at best. Even on my best day I struggle. What is right and what is wrong; moral and immoral; good and bad can be subject to the society we live in. You may have to become a morally upright person in an immoral atmosphere just to be able to survive. How do you know how to do the right thing when society cannot agree on what the right thing is? Let's look at a couple of examples:
Interracial marriage is all the rage in our NEW WORLD ORDER. Even the mainstream Christians cannot agree on the subject. Yet inter-racial marriage is immoral. That interpretation is supported by history and science. No civilization in history has ever survived a multicultural society. For whites, black genes are predominant over white genes at a ratio of 4 to 1. We are breeding the white race out of existence. And, if you object to the status quo, you will be labeled a racist, bigot, neo-Nazi, fascist, white supremacist, hatemonger, etc., etc. The point being that even if you are observing the right thing (cultural integrity) then you are condemned in society. Unless you had an exceptional upbringing, you may not know how to handle it. It's easier to go along to get along. You don't want to make waves; you can't fight city hall; you need to conform to a democratic society. I disagree. The first and most important thing that you can do in order to become a man is to determine what your personal values are. If, in your heart, you observe Americans getting tattoos, body piercings, smoking cigarettes and weed, using illegal drugs, engaging in sexually deviant behavior AND you consider that the body is the temple of the soul, you may want to reject that which is acceptable and popular. I'm not saying that you should feel this way. I'm saying if you applied logic and reasoning to the destruction of your body and your soul, you may want to begin thinking outside the box. You may want to develop your own set of values.
Another area that we ignore is that of relationships. Women argue that it is their body and their baby so they have a "right" to an abortion. The only thing a man becomes is a sperm donor and a financial revenue generating resource for the woman and "her" baby. We treat sex as an extracurricular hobby. We ignore the long term ramifications. This goes to the heart of our values. Women attempt to raise children on their own. This becomes problematic for society. Males are raised by women and some resent the single parent lifestyle. They become drug addicts or in extreme cases mass murderers. They become fairies. Some become "non-binary" (whatever in the Hell they think that is.) Many of these guys struggle with the world, going to all kinds of resources looking for an answer - an answer that should have been provided by a well informed father with a reasonable moral compass. If divorce or a dysfunctional atmosphere destroyed your life, why would you engage in behaviors that would destroy the life of any potential children you may have now or in the future? I think a majority of males (all of them for all I know) may engage in destructive behavior because we are not taught valid ethics and values in our youth. And I would start at that point. The first key to becoming a man is to develop that moral compass with well thought outvalues AND don't be afraid to think outside the box.
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Post by professorx on Nov 4, 2022 16:11:34 GMT
It seemed to me that curiousfiend was dissatisfied with this thread so I asked for his posts to be moved and those who want to follow along with him and approach the issue from his perspective are encouraged to do so. Gentlemen there was not a conversation in that and it was better to have two threads than read that painful exchange. Hopefully posters can make sense out of what both of you are trying to say. From what I can see so far is that if a person is young or they missed the things a father should have taught their son the information you are posting gets them on that track. Is that the goal? To keep up with curiousfiend on this subject follow this link. resisters.freeforums.net/thread/163/view-curiousfiend
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Post by The Resister on Nov 4, 2022 17:20:58 GMT
This is a broad subject, so will first hit on the one subject that i think is most important and to the heart of the issue......as I see it. Men are supposed to be the "protector","provider","example"........first i will hit on protector as it is the most important. I think that it has simply to do with modern society's stance on violence. "Zero tolerance" when it comes to fighting in schools they say. i think it started sometime in the 80s but i might be wrong. In order for a male of our species to be a "man", amongst many other things they have to be able to commit violence. Understand that violence does not mean anything physical....but life conflict in general. Society has been tricked into thinking that what they are supposed to be is bad....this is true with men and women.....but for now, ill keep to the man. There is an old saying from someone somewhere: "all that is needed for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing"......this is very true. having the choice to do violence is a requisite for "good" Not having the ability, whether metal or physical, gives the person a lack of options, and leads to a mode of compliance. Compliance is how the Holocaust happened. Men are supposed to be the protectors of the family or the tribe, or whatever you want to call it, and is you are unwilling to do violence, you cannot achieve the status of "protector" "Provider" is easy. Men are to provide stuff for the family....simple.......food, clothes, candy, video games etc. "Example" if you do both of the above, then you are the example.....it is cyclic either way. I am over simplifying this for means of expedience of the post, but i thin kyall get the picture. I wasn't addressing our values per se though admittedly you have a point. The issue that baffles young men (and generally isn't taught) is WHY the man should be the provider and protector. And, in a society where white males are locked out, what happens when it is impossible for the male to be the breadwinner? My wife thought she should be making all the decisions until I got a job making more money than her. Can you imagine the conversations afterward? In our society there is the legal perspective; there is the moral perspective; then there is reality. Many times societal norms, the law, and morality are a three way fight with each side having its own determinative factors as to what is right and what is wrong. The thing I am trying to accomplish is to teach the youth and men who weren't given this opportunity a way to rethink their values and how to best apply them.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2022 18:56:16 GMT
Well, apparently around 75%[*several hours writing] of my previous post just vanished. Will have to fix this tomorrow coz it's late and i gotta crash out. Sent from my CPH2025 using Tapatalk Some of your posts are excessively long. LOL forgive me for chuckling. No use beating around the bush right? So gratifying to see that here, nobody gives a damn about offending....political correctness be damned!
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Post by professorx on Nov 4, 2022 20:37:30 GMT
Some of your posts are excessively long. LOL forgive me for chuckling. No use beating around the bush right? So gratifying to see that here, nobody gives a damn about offending....political correctness be damned! We are not going to ban people for saying unpopular things. One poster had his posts moved as it appeared he was disappointed in the thread and then it appeared he wanted to take a dump on it and exit the thread and maybe the board. I did not censor him I just asked for help in moving his posts in a thread that he can be happy with since the responses will be based on what interested him about the subject. Stay within the parameters of the rules and that's easy enough. On a more serious note since we should always have something to say about the threads we reply to - I have to wonder how the values part plays out since the door to more discussion was opened.
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