How to be a Man II

The Christian religion gave early Americans the basis of defining right from wrong; good from bad; acceptable from unacceptable; legal from illegal; moral from immoral. In most of America's earliest history the majority of Americans practiced basic tenets of Christianity and America was blessed above all other countries. The formula worked. Believers and unbelievers all agreed to be governed by men that were committed to preserving biblical principles.

Today America is in the midst of becoming a Hell on earth as we transition from a society that was based upon rules that were consistent and unchangeable. The younger generations of males are more accepting of the LGBTQP lifestyle and many men have an identity crisis thinking they are "non-binary" or they think they are a girl. The men in the older generations think that the man is still the head of the house and the man should be the primary provider for the family. We expect that the man should be the leader of the family and establish the rules of the house. Our first thread on this subject went to the heart of asking men to use critical thinking skills.

On this count, is your sexuality a benefit or is it a hindrance to your future growth? How do you see yourself in five years down the road? Ten years? Twenty five? You live in the moment, but what about the future? When you are old who will care for you? Who will be there for holidays? Who will be responsible for your financial future when you can't manage for yourself? If it's a gay partner, chances are one person will die before the other. Those of us who have worked as foster parents know that there is a time when adoptees want to know about their biological roots. Everybody has a sense of the innate need to be connected to their biological family. Part of who we are is that we be fruitful and multiply. People are running away from that reality; however, no amount of legislation nor law enforcement will save us from our innate needs.

As I present each issue, you must be willing to use critical thinking skills. You must ask yourself hard questions. Facing hard truths is necessary if you want to become a mature man.

You are coming in loud and clear. Is this going to go deeper than the usual drugs and gangs kind of stuff? What men ought to know is how to succeed in life and get out of the rat race. There has to be something better than what is going on in the USA. It seems that nobody has any good options or answers. Thanks for the effort so far. We just need more.

For decades we have been conditioned, Pavlovian style, not to be judgmental... provided that you were looking at a freak. I see men with two different kinds of dye in their hair, tattoos, body piercings, grungy clothes, nail polish on their nails, a ton of costume jewelry on their body, a cigarette in their mouth, the odor of skunk on their body, and really bad dental hygiene. They have no responsibilities, no ambitions, no initiative and no plan for their own future. As a society, we have been programmed to stand up and defend these people. After all, this is America. Right? You should be able to do whatever you want. Right?

Now, take another person that is clean cut, ambitious and has a vision for America. Once he attacks the power structure (the powers that be), that individual become public enemy number one. How can that be? Aren't we a nation that celebrates diversity? Doesn't everybody merit a seat at the table? Ah, but NOOOOOO! If you believe in the First Principles upon which this (former) Republic was founded; if you support cultural integrity then you will be labeled, singled out and stigmatized as a Nazi, fascist, racist, white supremacist "Christian Nationalist," conspiracy theorist, scum of the earth, POS that doesn't deserve anything save of a public stoning. This week, as the black rapper called Ye found out, this intolerance and vitriol is not meted out to just white men.

But back to the point: If you want people to take you seriously, you have to take yourself seriously. Decent people want to be in the company of other decent people. Right now they are hard to find in America as the left has us transitioning into a third world cesspool. If you look like a refugee from a clown show, then people will treat you like refugee from a clown show. And, I have to ask, is that who you REALLY are? Or, in the subconscious of your mind, do you know how you look, but are suffering from such low self esteem that you don't know how to escape and come back to a point of sanity.

At one level you figure that the masses stand up for the guy looking like a refugee from a clown show. Then you have to see how much B.S. the clean cut guy can attract by saying the wrong thing. The thing of it is, if the clean cut guy learns the material we're discussing here they can minimize their exposure to the classless masses he can succeed in life and become self sufficient and self reliant. The guy looking like a clown not so much. If you want people to have a positive attitude toward you, then have some confidence in yourself and dress for success. Your outward appearance should be a positive one. But I digress.

The more you focus on the inner you, the more you begin to realize that you may need to change your physical appearance. A bar of soap, a haircut, and a razor used on those grungy whiskers can transform an ugly mug into a presentable human being. Think about the person you want to project to others. Do you need a daily pity party OR do you want a good job (maybe your own business), a nice car, clothes, money in the bank, and friends / family that respect you rather than pity you and remain embarrassed by you? You wouldn't have read this far into this thread unless you were looking for ways to become a man - unless you wanted to troll me, but haven't mustered up the courage to disagree. So, think about it. I'll switch gears the next time I post.

Part of the reason that males in the United States have a hard time becoming men comes from false religion and piss poor leaders. How can one become a man when so many pastors and politicians are full of political excrement?

The politicians are threatening church leaders with rescinding their non-profit status and forcing them to pay taxes if they fail to preach the false doctrine of a NEW WORLD ORDER / One World Government. Unless and until the men of the United States step up to the plate and acknowledge that, they will remain little boys in a man's body. The leader of BJU had an "epiphany" a few years ago after the federal government threatened them over their policy of not allowing inter-racial dating / marriage on campus. Recently, the Mormons started warming up to homosexuality. One writer had this to say:

"Mormons have been revising their doctrines all along. The revisions are driven by cultural and political changes, though the church attributes them to revelation."

slate.com/news-and-politics/2014/11/mormons-will-accept-homosexuality-mormon-church-leaders-use-revelation-to-revise-its-doctrines-to-the-times.html

I was ordained in the World Church League. A couple of years later the WCL became affiliated with the Latter Day Saints. I left the WCL. Let my testimony be a witness of what it takes to become a mature man. When your God changes his mind to the point that good becomes evil, something is wrong. The Bible is clear on that point and if you choose Christianity over another religion, you'd better be prepared for that - if for no other reason, your own sanity.

PRIORITIES

Maturity means that you have priorities. Here are the top FIVE and you should think them over:

1) Your God should be the first in your life

2) Your family and YOUR well being (physically, mentally, spiritually, financially, etc.) are your second priority

3) You owe a duty to your local neighborhood. Become a good neighbor and a good citizen

4) You owe a duty to your nation. Learn civics and participate in the process in one form or another. Consider your duty to be part of the militia (that is not the military)

5) You owe it to yourself and others to always seek the truth... no matter how hard it is to ascertain and how much effort it takes. Always remember the Golden Rule: Do unto others as you would have others do unto you.

All of what we're discussing go into making a man out of a boy regardless of age. Unfortunately we live in a time where false religions, organized religion, a two party political system that has become nothing short of socialists and communists holds sway, and a society with a broken moral compass. The best lessons you can learn are those in discernment, priorities, and laying out a plan of success for your personal life. If you notice a LOT of people come to this site and they register then post a few posts. When the general public isn't fawning all over them and / or their opinions get questioned, they beat a hasty retreat getting out of here. This is the only place on the Internet where you will not be banned for what you believe. Just post it in the right place and within minimal posting rules. So, do you know the reason most people will never post here?

Modern churches will tell you a lot about cults. ONE of the distinguishing hallmarks of a cult is that they have a leader that doesn't want you to have access to alternative points of view. This board is 180 degrees opposite of that. We want you to have all the facts and listen to other points of view. For that reason, those who would call me (or others here) names and urge you to flee all have something to hide. Since we aren't hiding anything, we challenge any and all comers. I want you to fix that in your mind. The majority of what you will hear, see, and read from mainstream religion is wrong. It's wrong; they know it's wrong and they will do what it takes to discourage you from participating in a think tank like this. The politicians select and coronate who they want in public office; therefore, you are fighting a losing battle in the short term. I want to do this post and then I promise to respond to what you've asked.

As America falls we have a Republican frontrunner lobbying for the end of the Constitution (limited or not the effort is what it is.) Democrats shamelessly support outright communists like Bernie Sanders and they advocate the absolute destruction of the Constitution with daily attacks on the Second Amendment and constant challenges to your Freedom of Religion (First Amendment.) The reason that nobody can give you direct answers is that nobody is advocating what made America great. Unlike Trump, I would never suggest that we limit, repeal or marginalize any portion of the Constitution that came into law legitimately (the 14th and 16th Amendments do not meet constitutional muster and can be factually challenged.) Unlike the Democrats I would never suggest that we ignore the Constitution based upon a simple majority vote (i.e. democracy.) If you don't like the Constitution, AMEND IT.

Preachers try to make people believe we are no longer under the law... but, then wait, they say we are under the law. The bottom line here is that the same God that said stealing and murder was wrong is the same God that said homosexuality and inter-racial marriage are wrong. The only "law" that got done away with in the New Testament is that we no longer have to offer up animal sacrifices to God after Christ died on the cross. If you want to follow a moral compass, you should take the Bible (or some holy book) and be guided by it. People like to cherry pick and then wonder why things don't go right in their life. So, pick a side and defend it.

In the midst of this confusion are males that, at a young age, were drugged by the system. It may have started out as Ritalin or Adderall; it may have been SSRIs. They may have been the product of broken homes, dysfunctional homes and / or the children of divorce. As a result illegal drugs may have played a role in their lives. For others it might just be booze and cigarettes. Either way, they tune out and then dropped out of a productive life. Employers now pay a pittance and unless you are part of a protected class OR you are a foreigner, then most employers won't hire you. There is no tax incentive, for example, to hire an able bodied white man. States made it easy for many males to get "food stamps" (which is actually a debit card) for food and mommy handles most of the rest of the needs of her "baby." Criminal records for youthful indiscretions and the lack of a decent education prevent most males (especially white Americans) to succeed. The key to solving any problem is to make sure you diagnose the problem correctly. Right now, there is no incentive to get males engaged in their future. Many don't think they have one. But, really they do. So stay tuned. I'll work on a few paragraphs that will answer you fully.

As patiently possible a lot of space has been used but noclevername is right. There are no specifics yet. All of the thread has value. We just need to get down to nuts and bolts. There was a news story on MSN regarding males in the workforce. www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/men-are-dropping-out-of-the-labor-force-because-they-re-upset-about-their-social-status-according-to-a-new-study/ar-AA151JeY?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=bd8bfc9660cf4d868cefaca6d05077df


Two quotes stick out in the story. "Non-college-educated men have seen their pay shrink by more than 30% since 1980 compared to the average earnings of all other prime-age workers." Then this. "Younger white men in particular were more likely to leave when their expected wages fell relative to their more educated peers, according to the Fed study." The study focuses on men from 25 to 54 years old. That still applies to younger guys just entering the workforce. Males in this country are up against some terrible odds. Let us get down to those nuts and bolts. How do we fix this? What advice do we give the younger males?

Well, we're beginning to get down to the last few posts. For those guys out there wanting to become a man to those who are wondering where their life went wrong, I think we've covered most of it. From the system and Drug Nation USA to dysfunctional families, divorce, and mommy mollycoddling to physical / mental / emotional/ alcohol abuse we've covered a lot of ground. As a kid all the way through adulthood I got to live the life of reverse discrimination, racial quotas and prejudice against white males in the workplace. For ALL of my adult life the corporate world was moving away from promoting white males. As a matter of fact on my last job I worked with an overwhelming majority number of blacks in the company. I took the job and was just saving some money for retirement. So, I took the lowest paying job they had: make some local deliveries, buy the office and bathroom supplies, some very light maintenance... do my eight and hit the gate. When I left I was working in customer service AND they laid off the assistant manager in the company. I took over his duties, but remained the lowest paid employee in the company. So, guys I got it. There I was making janitor wages, but doing the work of an assistant manager.

Depression, frustration, anxiety, hopelessness, etc. are hard to deal with and I'm going to level with you. IF you are one of those who live off their parents and / or Uncle Scam with freebie welfare handouts, you are screwing yourself. The average woman of today that has children is dumber than a box of rocks. If they have no expectation of their children and GIVE them everything they need, it tells them there is no upside to becoming a real man. And yet they do.

Gentlemen, you may have to divorce your mommy - at least for a little while if you intend on becoming a man. Thomas Paine summed it up best:

"That which we obtain too easily we esteem too lightly"

That means if you don't have to work and sacrifice for something, you won't appreciate it. Frederic Douglass once echoed the same sentiment when he said "Where there is no struggle, there is no progress." So, how do you start? Let me give you a typical situation I see people in and I'll walk you through this, step by step. Let's take John (a mythical guy for illustration purposes.) He checks most of the negative boxes: no education, no job skills, maybe some dings on his criminal record. He breezes into town with no money. How does he get a foothold? He can panhandle, beg, sell his plasma, whatever it takes to come up with a few bucks. Then he gets a membership at the work-out spa. There he has access to a shower and can get clean. Churches and non-profit organizations provide food, clothes, toiletries, blankets, and coats to the homeless. John can partake. If he didn't know how to find these places, he would have started out asking churches, the Salvation Army, the local Dept. of Family and Children Services, etc. Even the library can assist in finding help.

With food, clothes and a shower John is ready to find a job. Restaurants, labor pools, and searching online for day labor - pay by the day are good starts. I've been known to approach service people at Home Depot to inquire about a few days work. A lot of people will help a person that is helping themselves. They will not help the guy that shows up unkempt, smoking cigarettes, whiskers on their face, stinking like a garbage can. If you have money for cigarettes, pot, illegal drugs, designer coffees yet you dress in nasty clothes and smell like a garbage dump, nobody will help you. If you read this thread and observe the things in the ongoing list, you will succeed. Bottom line here: Undocumented foreigners come here with far more inherent handicaps than you (able to check all ten boxes from the previous post AND can't speak English), and they succeed. White males do not get an instant free ride as they are more likely to be drug addicts that are not going to work for their money. Our society screwed the white guy. If he wants to do better, HE must create opportunities by being better than the stereotype.

Criminal record? Don't think that just because you can't get a job in a clean grocery store for minimum wage or that entry level job in a corporation that you are totally locked out. We live in an era where plumbers make more than attorneys. The guy that can build websites and get people their own podcast or other Internet presence can make more in a day a than cook or a retail clerk clears in a week. A man with a pickup truck and minimal tools can clean gutters, cut grass, cut down shrubs and small trees, haul off junk and help people clean out their garage or basement and make a decent living. There are umpteen cash businesses you can do and make good money and it isn't going to matter about your criminal record (and some of that may be available for expungement.)

I'll make this simple for you: If you live with your parents (and especially a mommy that gives you everything) you will not be a man until you're ready to leave and make sacrifices, feel some pain, and endure a certain amount of discomfort. The longer you are dependent upon others, the more likely it is you will remain dependent. What happens when that gravy train stops? What happens when the people you depend upon get too old to work or they die? People enabling you to be a loser are hurting you regardless of what they think they're doing. You are living in the first era where the youth have shorter life spans than their parents; the first era where those in the work force are less affluent than the generation before them. Laziness and apathy compounded by what we've discussed so far have totally destroyed this nation. Plan on getting out of your comfort zone. Take notes from this thread. We can wrap this up in a couple more posts and you should have a working blueprint to work from.